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From: "Mary Compton" on 19 Dec 2009 15:57

----- Original Message -----
From: "William W. Austin" <waustin(a)speakeasy.net>
To: <discuss(a)openoffice.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: [discuss] I have written a 1500 page book with OpenOffice
Writer.


> On 2007-11-20 11:36:29, MasonCide wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've nearly completed a long book with OpenOffice 2.0 Writer in
>> Debian
>> Linux
>> Etch. I think the Writer is great. I didn't have any problems with
>> it.
>
> While I haven't done any books, I _have_ written technical reports
> running to over 2400 pages (500+ tables, 250+ graphs/figures/plots,
> TOC, indexes) divided up in chapters (sections) as if it were a book.
> I have to second the writer's statement: I, too, had no real problems
> (that I didn't cause myself by not reading the help docs). While I use
> SO primarily on Linux (fedora 3-4-5-6-7) and Solaris (2.5 through 2.9),
> I seldom use the Windows version, but I suspect that the info below
> will still apply.
>
> (SNIP)
>
>> I would have liked a keystroke macro recorder, where I could click
>> on 'Record', enter a key combination to activate the macro, click
>> 'Record'
>> again, and touch keys to form a key sequence macro, click stop, and
>> when I
>> touched the key combo to activate the macro, the key sequence, of
>> which the
>> macro consisted, would be executed.
>
> I just tried it and this works for me. Try Tools>Customize, "BASIC",
> "Record Macro". It worked for me for a couple of very simple macro's
> anyway. Applying the macro still seems to require menu/mouse access
> (although someone may correct me on that one - I only use a few macros
> and I am not familiar with all of the ins and outs here).
>
> (SNIP)
>
>> Also, There is no way to add an index entry using the keyboard.
>
> Again, you can go to Tools>Customize and then select the "Keyboard"
> tab. Then pick out whatever shortcut keys you like and assign
> (Category) "Insert", (Function) "Indexes and Tables" to it. Then the
> window pops up and you can create the Index you want. If what you mean
> here is to edit the already-created index to add an entry to it, then
> on the Tools>Customize "Keyboard" tab, Catgory "Edit", Function "Edit
> Index". You'll have to position the cursor where you want to add it
> and (I suspect) make sure that the index is modifiable when you create
> it. (I always do this last part so modifying an index or table has not
> been high on my "problems" list.
>
> (SNIP)
>
>> I couldn't figure out the keyboard shortcuts for formatting.
>
> Try the help button - go to "shortcut keys" in the index. There are
> fairly complete shortcut listings, and of course, you can always add
> your own personal favorites. (piece of cake)
>
>> There is no feature to automatically adjust the document so there are
>> no
>> widows and orphans.
>
> Go to Format>Paragraph and then click on the "Text Flow" tab - these
> settings are there along with other useful controls. Better yet,
> create your own format in the stylist (or change one of the ones there)
> and you won't have to do this every time - it will simply become
> "automatic".
>
> (SNIP)
>
>> The bullets and numbering feature is not intuitive. It took me a
>> long
>> time to
>> learn it. When the user hits 'enter' twice in bullet or numbering
>> mode,
>> without typing anything after the first enter, bulleting or numbering
>> should
>> delete the last two bullets or numbers, and turn bullets or numbering
>> off.
>
> While I'm fairly sure that "intuitive" is rather subjective, I have to
> say that this feature is at least slightly "different" on _all_ of the
> different WP programs I've had to use over the years (troff/nroff,
> Applix, OLD StarOffice [pre OOo], SO6-7-8/OOo, FrameMaker, WP, ABIword,
> IslandWrite/Draw/Paint, MsWord, Kword, and a couple of others that I'd
> really like to forget). IMHO (or not so...) "intuitive" means that it
> does what I expect it to do. But if by "intuitive" you mean like MS
> Word, then I agree - BUT I'm glad that it is NOT like MS Word, and I
> prefer it the way it is. So to me it _is_ "intuitive" - and _your_
> mileage _will_ vary.
>
> (SNIP)
>
>> When a bullet or number has a long text portion attached, if some
>> text
>> is
>> added or deleted from the entry, the formatting should stay the same,
>> not get
>> all messed up with tabs in the middle of lines.
>
> I have tried this for about an hour, adding/deleting from as little as
> a single character all the way up to and addition/deletion of about 10K
> characters (6 pages). But I have not been able to duplicate this one.
> Could you perhaps put an example up somewhere to download?
>
>
> --
> william w. austin waustin(a)speakeasy.net
> "life is just another phase i'm going through. this time, anyway ..."
>
>
>
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