From: Hot-Text on
Isn't there a Usenet
administration that decides what groups exist ?
NO not one at all!


"Steven Saunderson" <phelum(a)Syd.au> wrote in message
news:rr0e06pvn4tq6t14u0a36orgl51agtr9pl(a)4ax.com...
> On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 20:00:23 -0400, 98 Guy <98(a)Guy.com> wrote:
>
>> So because Microsoft has begun the process of shutting down it's usenet
>> server, these people are flailing around, trying to figure out what to
>> do or how to deal with this.
>
> Will the Microsoft newsgroups actually disappear ? Isn't there a Usenet
> administration that decides what groups exist ? Whether individual
> servers support them or not is another matter. The possible difference
> with MS groups is that the name starts with Microsoft so if they demand
> the groups disappear then perhaps the administration will comply.
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Steven

From: Hot-Text on
microsoft.public.win98.fat32 is not on AIOE go more!


" Sunny" <wombathouse(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> "98 Guy" <98(a)Guy.com> wrote in message news:4C07295B.D635E13F(a)Guy.com...
>> Steven Saunderson wrote:
>>
>>> Will the Microsoft newsgroups actually disappear ?
>>
>> Last November or December, Microsoft performed a major "cleaning" and
>> removed over 500 newsgroups on it's server. Many of them were
>> non-english-language groups, many of them for obscure microsoft
>> products, and many had little to no traffic for some time. Some
>> examples contrary to that were:
>>
>> - microsoft.public.win98.display.multi-monitor
>> - microsoft.public.win98.fat32
>>
>> So Julien did infact issue the appropriate control messages to remove
>> those 500+ groups from usenet, and those server operators that choose to
>> honor those control messages (one way or another) did infact remove
>> those groups from their server. This is basically an automatic process
>> for most of them - it's not like they were aware of this situation.
>>
>> In the above two examples, the usenet server I'm using to post this
>> message (aioe.org) followed the ISC list and removed those two groups
>> from it's server.
>
> Not true actually :-
> I saw your test post from 2009 and checked microsoft.public.win98.fat32,
> and
>
> while it is not on the Microsoft, eternal and aioe servers it is still
> available on
> bigpond
> Telstra
> freenews.netfront
> My replies to your 11 Dec 2009 "testing" were accepted on all servers (3
> Jun 2010)
>
From: Steven Saunderson on
On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 20:58:02 -0500, "Hot-Text" <hot-text(a)hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Isn't there a Usenet
> administration that decides what groups exist ?
> NO not one at all!

I think there is. I don't know how much influence MS has and whether
they've requested that the groups be closed but since no-one has posted
recently to the few groups I monitor then it really doesn't matter.

Why don't you try posting a message to
microsoft.public.win98.disks.general and see what happens. If you can't
then I could try and we can see the difference.

--
Steven
From: Sjouke Burry on
Steven Saunderson wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 20:58:02 -0500, "Hot-Text" <hot-text(a)hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Isn't there a Usenet
>> administration that decides what groups exist ?
>> NO not one at all!
>
> I think there is. I don't know how much influence MS has and whether
> they've requested that the groups be closed but since no-one has posted
> recently to the few groups I monitor then it really doesn't matter.
>
> Why don't you try posting a message to
> microsoft.public.win98.disks.general and see what happens. If you can't
> then I could try and we can see the difference.
>
I just subscribed, and posted a message
the last message there was 6/1/2010
From: Sjouke Burry on
Sjouke Burry wrote:
> Steven Saunderson wrote:
>> On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 20:58:02 -0500, "Hot-Text" <hot-text(a)hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Isn't there a Usenet
>>> administration that decides what groups exist ?
>>> NO not one at all!
>> I think there is. I don't know how much influence MS has and whether
>> they've requested that the groups be closed but since no-one has posted
>> recently to the few groups I monitor then it really doesn't matter.
>>
>> Why don't you try posting a message to
>> microsoft.public.win98.disks.general and see what happens. If you can't
>> then I could try and we can see the difference.
>>
> I just subscribed, and posted a message
> the last message there was 6/1/2010
And I found the test message there.
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