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From: George's Pro Sound Co. on 22 Jul 2010 06:20 "Ron" <ron(a)lunevalleyaudio.com> wrote in message news:eOqdncFeE-UQadrRnZ2dnUVZ8v0AAAAA(a)bt.com... > On 21/07/2010 23:21, George's Pro Sound Co. wrote: >> "The Post Quartermaster"<quartermasterextraordinaire(a)postfiftyone.org> >> wrote in message news:GbGdnWOWuPGm7drRnZ2dnUVZ_uSdnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >>> After weighing all the great advice and studying the situation I decided >>> on a solution for the outside speaker problem. Here's what I plan to do. >>> >>> I have two old 8 ohm monitor speakers that I am going to use. I'll take >>> them out of the cabinets they are in and build a couple of new ones that >>> will be as weather proof as possible. (also they will be under a pretty >>> good awning) I am going to loan the CoC a 12/4 Yamaha mixer that I don't >>> use. I will either loan, or just give them, one or two old QSC A3.7 >>> power >>> amps I have. If I use both of them, I will run one speaker off of one >>> amp. >>> The amp has two outputs and shows 150w RMS at 4ohms minimum so running >>> an >>> 8ohm speaker should be no problem. ???? >> >> providing the amps are in good working order this is technically sound >>> >>> One of the amps might not be operable and if that is the case I'll have >>> to >>> run two 8ohm speakers off of one amp thus putting me right at the 4ohm >>> minimum. Right??? And that should be okay also. ??? >> >> >> that would be correct >>> >>> I appreciate all the responses and took them all seriously. I would >>> further appreciate any thoughts on my proposed solution. I'm pretty sure >>> it's not going to be the greatest sounding setup but at least they'll >>> have >>> some noise.<G> If it sounds too bad, maybe it will be an incentive for >>> them to have a fundraiser to upgrade their system. >>> >>> >> going with a unit as modest as the pmp2000 for around 300$ will be a >> world >> away from what they have >> >> http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/PMP2000.aspx >> >> I also have 518 powered mixers, I use that as a FREE loan to boy scout >> troops for calling pinewood derbys and to accompany a small confrence >> system that has a wireless mic and a video project, usually to a audience >> numbering in the 12 to 40 range >> so the 518 does have uses , just not multi zone low impedance loads > > I gotta ask, What's a pinewood derby? Soapbox cart racing? > > Ron > much smaaller here is a picture http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Dpinewood%2Bderby%26ei%3DUTF-8%26fr%3Dyfp-t-701&w=331&h=500&imgurl=farm1.static.flickr.com%2F80%2F244720854_f724b868f7.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2F50363880%40N00%2F244720854%2F&size=123k&name=Pinewood+Derby+2...&p=pinewood+derby&oid=f8ed5988358e1292&fr2=&fusr=Pinewood+Der...&no=10&tt=125455&sigr=11kajs7lb&sigi=11j0ppo2o&sigb=12jvlnsvv
From: Ron on 22 Jul 2010 09:37 On 22/07/2010 11:20, George's Pro Sound Co. wrote: > "Ron"<ron(a)lunevalleyaudio.com> wrote in message > news:eOqdncFeE-UQadrRnZ2dnUVZ8v0AAAAA(a)bt.com... >> On 21/07/2010 23:21, George's Pro Sound Co. wrote: >>> "The Post Quartermaster"<quartermasterextraordinaire(a)postfiftyone.org> >>> wrote in message news:GbGdnWOWuPGm7drRnZ2dnUVZ_uSdnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >>>> After weighing all the great advice and studying the situation I decided >>>> on a solution for the outside speaker problem. Here's what I plan to do. >>>> >>>> I have two old 8 ohm monitor speakers that I am going to use. I'll take >>>> them out of the cabinets they are in and build a couple of new ones that >>>> will be as weather proof as possible. (also they will be under a pretty >>>> good awning) I am going to loan the CoC a 12/4 Yamaha mixer that I don't >>>> use. I will either loan, or just give them, one or two old QSC A3.7 >>>> power >>>> amps I have. If I use both of them, I will run one speaker off of one >>>> amp. >>>> The amp has two outputs and shows 150w RMS at 4ohms minimum so running >>>> an >>>> 8ohm speaker should be no problem. ???? >>> >>> providing the amps are in good working order this is technically sound >>>> >>>> One of the amps might not be operable and if that is the case I'll have >>>> to >>>> run two 8ohm speakers off of one amp thus putting me right at the 4ohm >>>> minimum. Right??? And that should be okay also. ??? >>> >>> >>> that would be correct >>>> >>>> I appreciate all the responses and took them all seriously. I would >>>> further appreciate any thoughts on my proposed solution. I'm pretty sure >>>> it's not going to be the greatest sounding setup but at least they'll >>>> have >>>> some noise.<G> If it sounds too bad, maybe it will be an incentive for >>>> them to have a fundraiser to upgrade their system. >>>> >>>> >>> going with a unit as modest as the pmp2000 for around 300$ will be a >>> world >>> away from what they have >>> >>> http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/PMP2000.aspx >>> >>> I also have 518 powered mixers, I use that as a FREE loan to boy scout >>> troops for calling pinewood derbys and to accompany a small confrence >>> system that has a wireless mic and a video project, usually to a audience >>> numbering in the 12 to 40 range >>> so the 518 does have uses , just not multi zone low impedance loads >> >> I gotta ask, What's a pinewood derby? Soapbox cart racing? >> >> Ron >> > much smaaller > here is a picture > http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Dpinewood%2Bderby%26ei%3DUTF-8%26fr%3Dyfp-t-701&w=331&h=500&imgurl=farm1.static.flickr.com%2F80%2F244720854_f724b868f7.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2F50363880%40N00%2F244720854%2F&size=123k&name=Pinewood+Derby+2...&p=pinewood+derby&oid=f8ed5988358e1292&fr2=&fusr=Pinewood+Der...&no=10&tt=125455&sigr=11kajs7lb&sigi=11j0ppo2o&sigb=12jvlnsvv > > AH that`s what we called 'Dinky racing' -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 1552 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message
From: The Post Quartermaster on 22 Jul 2010 10:11 "Joe Kotroczo" <kotroczo(a)mac.com> wrote in message news:C86DBFB6.C591C%kotroczo(a)mac.com... > On 22/07/2010 00:33, in article > YpednSSh_5ow6NrRnZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d(a)giganews.com, "The Post > Quartermaster" > <quartermasterextraordinaire(a)postfiftyone.org> wrote: > > (...) >> >> I still can't grasp that impedence stuff. To me it seems that low >> impedence (impedence being the operative word) would be a good >> thing. >> I remember back in my teens, a girl's Dad would "impede" me from >> seeing her. I guess that has stuck with me. > > An impedance of zero equals a short circuit. > > An impedance of infinity equals an open circuit. > > Clearer that way? > > > -- > Joe Kotroczo kotroczo(a)mac.com > Kinda. Thanks -- Careful how you respond. I have people! JC
From: The Post Quartermaster on 22 Jul 2010 14:37 "The Post Quartermaster" <quartermasterextraordinaire(a)postfiftyone.org> wrote in message news:GbGdnWOWuPGm7drRnZ2dnUVZ_uSdnZ2d(a)giganews.com... > After weighing all the great advice and studying the situation I > decided on a solution for the outside speaker problem. Here's what I > plan to do. > > I have two old 8 ohm monitor speakers that I am going to use. I'll > take them out of the cabinets they are in and build a couple of new > ones that will be as weather proof as possible. (also they will be > under a pretty good awning) I am going to loan the CoC a 12/4 Yamaha > mixer that I don't use. I will either loan, or just give them, one > or two old QSC A3.7 power amps I have. If I use both of them, I will > run one speaker off of one amp. The amp has two outputs and shows > 150w RMS at 4ohms minimum so running an 8ohm speaker should be no > problem. ???? > > One of the amps might not be operable and if that is the case I'll > have to run two 8ohm speakers off of one amp thus putting me right > at the 4ohm minimum. Right??? And that should be okay also. ??? > > I appreciate all the responses and took them all seriously. I would > further appreciate any thoughts on my proposed solution. I'm pretty > sure it's not going to be the greatest sounding setup but at least > they'll have some noise. <G> If it sounds too bad, maybe it will be > an incentive for them to have a fundraiser to upgrade their system. > > > -- > Careful how you respond. I have people! > > JC I forgot to mention. In using this setup, I will use the Behringer also. I'm just going to put a Shure A27M (dual mic holder) on the mic stand. One mic will run to the Behringer (indoor pa) and the other will run to the Yamaha mixer (outdoor pa) so what is said, sung or whatever will be heard both indoors and out with the ability to mix for each environment individually. -- Careful how you respond. I have people! JC
From: Rupert on 22 Jul 2010 16:53
On Jul 22, 11:37 am, "The Post Quartermaster" <quartermasterextraordina...(a)postfiftyone.org> wrote: > "The Post Quartermaster"<quartermasterextraordina...(a)postfiftyone.org> wrote in message > > news:GbGdnWOWuPGm7drRnZ2dnUVZ_uSdnZ2d(a)giganews.com... > > > > > > > After weighing all the great advice and studying the situation I > > decided on a solution for the outside speaker problem. Here's what I > > plan to do. > > > I have two old 8 ohm monitor speakers that I am going to use. I'll > > take them out of the cabinets they are in and build a couple of new > > ones that will be as weather proof as possible. (also they will be > > under a pretty good awning) I am going to loan the CoC a 12/4 Yamaha > > mixer that I don't use. I will either loan, or just give them, one > > or two old QSC A3.7 power amps I have. If I use both of them, I will > > run one speaker off of one amp. The amp has two outputs and shows > > 150w RMS at 4ohms minimum so running an 8ohm speaker should be no > > problem. ???? > > > One of the amps might not be operable and if that is the case I'll > > have to run two 8ohm speakers off of one amp thus putting me right > > at the 4ohm minimum. Right??? And that should be okay also. ??? > > > I appreciate all the responses and took them all seriously. I would > > further appreciate any thoughts on my proposed solution. I'm pretty > > sure it's not going to be the greatest sounding setup but at least > > they'll have some noise. <G> If it sounds too bad, maybe it will be > > an incentive for them to have a fundraiser to upgrade their system. > > > -- > > Careful how you respond. I have people! > > > JC > > I forgot to mention. In using this setup, I will use the Behringer > also. I'm just going to put a Shure A27M (dual mic holder) on the mic > stand. One mic will run to the Behringer (indoor pa) and the other > will run to the Yamaha mixer (outdoor pa) so what is said, sung or > whatever will be heard both indoors and out with the ability to mix > for each environment individually. That's overkill. Simply use an XLR Y cable to split the single mic out to the two mixers. You can do this at the input of one of the mixers so you only have a single mic cable coming out of the mic. Mic to long cable, cable to XLR Y, one side of the Y into mixer 1, other side of the XLR Y into mixer 2 - you can use jumper XLR cable over to the other mixer the splits on the Y aren't long enough. Rupert |