From: Csaba Gabor on
On Nov 12, 10:47 pm, "AvWG" <dretr...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've done all, with and without tabs.

All -> what <- ?
We seem to have a communication problem.

> And in both cases I can't get the "same" source of a
> page, manually vs vbscript.

Well, I don't know how you are attempting to get
the source of a page (indeed, I don't even know whether
you have gotten ahold of the tabbed page, for that
matter).

> So, for me, the problem is that vbscript can't do the job
> for me and I doubt another language can...
> I believe the problem is the internet.application-object
> does not provide the right "tools"

Grousing and griping are fine, as far as I'm concerned,
and I have done it on these groups myself. But without
specifics, a person might be inclined to transform it in
their mind like so:
gripe -> grips -> grits -> writs -> write -> white -> whine

> Btw: for my current job I automate every thing with vbscript and till now
> there was little I couldn't handle.... :-(

Then here's something else for your arsenal (tested on IE8):
Set focus onto the link in the prior (active) page and then
SendKeys "+^~"

Csaba Gabor from Vienna

Possibly relevant pages:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa752127%28VS.85%29.aspx
http://www.add-in-express.com/docs/internet-explorer-addon-development.php

> André
>
> "Csaba Gabor" <dans...(a)gmail.com> schreef in berichtnews:0ddc3d94-fccc-4a53-a9f6-b4aaa5baba80(a)d5g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 11, 10:32 pm, "AvWG" <dretr...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Csaba,
>
> > Thank you for your message. I've already done what you described.
>
> I've recommended two main things, and described a few things that
> I recommended against.  The first recommendation was to stay
> away from tabs (using multiple instances or multiple invocations were
> two possible alternatives (but I certainly don't recommend either
> one)),
> especially by using single instance serial navigation.
>
> The second was a possible way to get ahold of a tab (using
> AppActivate) if you nevertheless insist on tabs.
>
> Which is it that you have already done?
>
> > One Instance, two instances, 25 instances. But that's not the
> > problem.
>
> > One of the problems is that it is not possible to go to the 12th tab
> > after creating 25 tabs (with ie VBScript).
>
> You have not motivated the problem.  What makes it compelling
> to create any tabs whatsoever?  I'm not saying there couldn't be
> a reason, but without guiding our thinking a bit, it is hard to wrap
> our heads around why.  Specifically, the internet world existed
> pretty well before tabs came along.  They did so as a user
> convenience rather than a user necessity.  So I would think you
> have to be doing something pretty darned unusual to be requiring
> tabs.
>
> > The other problem: When I use something like sendkeys and end
> > at the 12th tab, I don't get the source of that page.  What I do
>
> Oh, and that's the other thing.  You should really be avoiding
> send keys, when at all possible.  It is only a method of last resort,
> and it is really easy to mess up doing the kinds of things that you
> are doing (as you have come to realize).  Without looking more
> at your specifics, my first inclination is to think that you have
> timing issues.  One possiblility for you is to really slow the send
> keys down (if your architecture doesn't permit this, the timing
> issues become much more probable) so you can see it as it
> happens.
>
> How do you avoid send keys?  The answer is to fill out the
> form on the page (for example, something like:
> ie.document.getElementById("myId").value = "myEntry"
> or
> var body = ie.document.body
> body.getElementsByTagName("INPUT")(0).value = "myEntry")
> You can direct links and targets to a specific window by
> setting their target attribute to the name of the window or
> frame in question.
>
> Oh, and yes, mayayana expressed both the principle of
> not using tabs nor using send keys much more
> succinctly in his Nov 8 post.
>
>
>
> > get is the source of the very first page I need to start, with
> > credentials in order to have access to that particular site. Manually on
> > that page I can click on 'Source' in the menu and get the source I want....
>
> > So no methodes to freely move between tabs and not getting the right
> > source
> > dump....
>
> > André
>
> > "Csaba Gabor" <dans...(a)gmail.com> schreef in
> > berichtnews:f8a0bc95-0728-4f4e-95e6-bcd17049a100(a)s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com...
> > On Nov 8, 11:56 am, "AvWG" <dretr...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Hi,
>
> > > With vbscript I.ve created the following:
> > > I start the IE-application, use sendkeys to login in on a site. Next I
> > > create 10 more tabs (internet-pages), each with slightly another
> > > address.
> > > When this is done I want to go to the 2nd tab, save the source
> > > information
> > > and do this for the rest of the 9 remaining tabs....
>
> > > The problem is: I can't get the focus off the first (login) tab. Though
> > > I
> > > can go to the next tab with sendkeys :-( , the html-source I want to
> > > review
> > > is still of the first tab...
>
> > > Manually I can click on the tabs and get the source. But first this time
> > > consuming and second I want to read many more internetpages/tabs then
> > > the
> > > 10
> > > I mentioned.
>
> > > So is there a vbscript-"command" to switch to other tabs?
>
> > I've read this thread, and I don't see any justification for wanting
> > to put the pages in different tabs. Specifically, there is no mention
> > of user interaction. Assuming that there is no user involvement
> > and that you are simply after information on those pages, I think
> > you would be better off creating an IE instance for each page
> > to which you'd like to navigate. For example, an array of
> > IE instances which (eventually) should run hidden.
>
> > However, there is a second problem, which is already evident
> > in your code, and that is that you are having a significant
> > problem determining when pages are ready. This is, in general,
> > quite a difficult issue. I think it would be far easier for you to
> > spawn a different process for each page you'd like to load so
> > that it can be dealt with separately. However, doing this
> > with 10 pages or so can be a massive hit on the CPU, so I
> > don't recommend this route.
>
> > Parallel processing of pages is really messy. Unless you
> > have a REALLY SPECIFIC reason for needing the parallel
> > aspect, your posted code implies that you are doing
> > background processing. That being the case, you could
> > just as well process each page one at a time (which also
> > reduces the chance that the remote site will ban you for
> > robotic access of their pages). So you could have the
> > original IE for your starting page, and then create a
> > second IE for your array of links (so that you can get
> > back to your original IE when done with processing said
> > array). Now process each link one at a time (taking into
> > account what to do if you've gotten to some timeout limit
> > and the page hasn't loaded).
>
> > Csaba Gabor from Vienna
>
> > > Part of the script:
> > > Set oIE = CreateObject("InternetExplorer.Application") ', "oIE_")
> > > oIE.Visible = True
> > > oIE.FullScreen = False
>
> > > 'open a new window
> > > oIE.Navigate2 aLinks(0)
> > > Do While oIE.Busy
> > > WScript.Sleep 50
> > > Loop
>
> > > 'open url In new tab
> > > Logon() ' My own logon subroutine
>
> > > WScript.Sleep 2000
> > > For J=1 To 9
> > > oIE.Navigate2 aLinks(J), navOpenInBackgroundTab 'navOpenInNewTab '
> > > Do While oIE.Busy
> > > WScript.Sleep 50
> > > Loop
> > > WScript.Sleep 3000
> > > Next
>
> > > WshShell.SendKeys "^{TAB}" 'go to the 2nd tab
> > > WScript.Sleep 100
> > > on error goto 0
>
> > > WScript.Sleep 2000
> > > WScript.Echo
> > > "***********************************************************"
>
> > > Here I used code as
> > > oIE.Document.body.innerHTML
> > > or
> > > Set oHTML = CreateObject("Microsoft.XMLHTTP")
> > > oHTML.open "GET" , sURL, True
>
> > > Does anybody have suggestions how to stear between the tabs?
>
> > By the way, I haven't tried this, and I don't have a tabbed IE here
> > to do so with, but if you click on the different tabs of IE, do you
> > get a different title in the title bar? If so, it's conceivable
> > (though
> > perhaps not likely) that you could activate a specific tab through
> > AppActivate. Has anyone tried that? I wouldn't want to take bets
> > on it, but...- Hide quoted text -
>
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