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From: John John - MVP on 4 Mar 2010 07:45 William B. Lurie wrote: >>> [snip] >>> I don't know why tasklist.exe doesn't play. That command line >>> has more to it, though. >> >> Look at the list of processes in the Task Manager, Tasklist gives you >> this information (and more) and allows you to capture the list to an >> output file. You need to strip the streams from the file, I think >> that when you execute the command and are prompted to confirm the >> command is relaunched minus any switches or redirection operators. >> ******************************* > ****************************** > John, I think you're right about the command not relaunching with > switches, and I'd like to do it fully, but is there another > workaround? I'm in this so deep, I'd love to pursue it further > and maybe speed up the boot process, and get rid of unnecessary > churning of the CPU and hard drive. > ************************************* > ************************************* Did you try copying the Tasklist.exe file to non NTFS media and then back? If you can't do it that way then you can use one of these stream utilities: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897440.aspx Streams http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/alternate_data_streams.html AlternateStreamView - View/Copy/Delete NTFS Alternate Data Streams http://www.merijn.nu/programs.php (Look for ADS Spy) John
From: William B. Lurie on 4 Mar 2010 07:46 (snip) John John > >> So now I have the list, and I can decide which of those files >> I really don't want; that's the next game, right? > > Well, yes... sort of. You have the list of services, you set the > unnecessary services to Manual start. A few of them you set to > Disabled, there aren't many services that should be disabled, setting > unwanted services to Manual start is usually the way to handle > unnecessary services. If you want you can post the list of services and > we might suggest obvious candidates for the removal list. > > John John, I went to Start>>Run>>cmd and at the > prompt entered tasklist /svc >C:\startlist.txt and it executed and made the file. Likewise net start .... http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/startlist.txt is the complete file. I see there about 90% of the items I really wouldn't know what to do with. If you'd like to suggest which I can relegate to "Manual" or even "Off" I'd be willing to give it a go. Bill Lurie
From: John John - MVP on 4 Mar 2010 08:12 William B. Lurie wrote: > > (snip) > John John > >> >>> So now I have the list, and I can decide which of those files >>> I really don't want; that's the next game, right? >> >> Well, yes... sort of. You have the list of services, you set the >> unnecessary services to Manual start. A few of them you set to >> Disabled, there aren't many services that should be disabled, setting >> unwanted services to Manual start is usually the way to handle >> unnecessary services. If you want you can post the list of services >> and we might suggest obvious candidates for the removal list. >> >> John > > John, I went to Start>>Run>>cmd and at the > prompt > entered tasklist /svc >C:\startlist.txt > and it executed and made the file. Likewise net start .... > > http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/startlist.txt > > is the complete file. > > I see there about 90% of the items I really wouldn't know > what to do with. If you'd like to suggest which I can > relegate to "Manual" or even "Off" I'd be willing to give > it a go. Ok, now you have something to work with. I have a pretty busy day so I probably won't be able to to get back to you until later today. Do you share a printer with others? If no you can start by disabling File and Printer Sharing, you don't share files and no one accesses your computer on a network so you may as well close this hole the size of Texas on the machine... It's relatively safe when properly secured but it's still a hole the size of Texas and if you don't need it close it. http://safecomputing.umn.edu/guides/fileandprint.html Disable Network Sharing http://www.nnex.net/tech/winxp/file_print.htm Disable File and Print Sharing in Windows XP http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6600_7-6344921-1.html CNET Security Center How to disable File and Printer Sharing John
From: William B. Lurie on 4 Mar 2010 09:15 John John - MVP wrote: > William B. Lurie wrote: >> >> (snip) >> John John >> >>> >>>> So now I have the list, and I can decide which of those files >>>> I really don't want; that's the next game, right? >>> >>> Well, yes... sort of. You have the list of services, you set the >>> unnecessary services to Manual start. A few of them you set to >>> Disabled, there aren't many services that should be disabled, setting >>> unwanted services to Manual start is usually the way to handle >>> unnecessary services. If you want you can post the list of services >>> and we might suggest obvious candidates for the removal list. >>> >>> John >> >> John, I went to Start>>Run>>cmd and at the > prompt >> entered tasklist /svc >C:\startlist.txt >> and it executed and made the file. Likewise net start .... >> >> http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/startlist.txt >> >> is the complete file. >> >> I see there about 90% of the items I really wouldn't know >> what to do with. If you'd like to suggest which I can >> relegate to "Manual" or even "Off" I'd be willing to give >> it a go. > > Ok, now you have something to work with. I have a pretty busy day so I > probably won't be able to to get back to you until later today. > > Do you share a printer with others? If no you can start by disabling > File and Printer Sharing, you don't share files and no one accesses your > computer on a network so you may as well close this hole the size of > Texas on the machine... It's relatively safe when properly secured but > it's still a hole the size of Texas and if you don't need it close it. > > http://safecomputing.umn.edu/guides/fileandprint.html > Disable Network Sharing > > http://www.nnex.net/tech/winxp/file_print.htm > Disable File and Print Sharing in Windows XP > > http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6600_7-6344921-1.html > CNET Security Center How to disable File and Printer Sharing > > John Thanks, John. I disabled file and printer sharing. When you have time, I welcome your pointing me toward other stuff that is in the tasklist that can be switched to manual. I assume that 'manual' means it does not load on startup but still can be loaded when needed. Bill
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A suggestion for you. Do a Google for 'windowsxp services tweak guide' and print it out. It has proven very helpful for me. It explains all services and what settings should be. "William B. Lurie" <billurie(a)nospam.net> wrote in message news:%23GoYqU6uKHA.4220(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > John John - MVP wrote: >> William B. Lurie wrote: >>> >>> (snip) >>> John John >>> >>>> >>>>> So now I have the list, and I can decide which of those files >>>>> I really don't want; that's the next game, right? >>>> >>>> Well, yes... sort of. You have the list of services, you set the >>>> unnecessary services to Manual start. A few of them you set to >>>> Disabled, there aren't many services that should be disabled, setting >>>> unwanted services to Manual start is usually the way to handle >>>> unnecessary services. If you want you can post the list of services >>>> and we might suggest obvious candidates for the removal list. >>>> >>>> John >>> >>> John, I went to Start>>Run>>cmd and at the > prompt >>> entered tasklist /svc >C:\startlist.txt >>> and it executed and made the file. Likewise net start .... >>> >>> http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/startlist.txt >>> >>> is the complete file. >>> >>> I see there about 90% of the items I really wouldn't know >>> what to do with. If you'd like to suggest which I can >>> relegate to "Manual" or even "Off" I'd be willing to give >>> it a go. >> >> Ok, now you have something to work with. I have a pretty busy day so I >> probably won't be able to to get back to you until later today. >> >> Do you share a printer with others? If no you can start by disabling File >> and Printer Sharing, you don't share files and no one accesses your >> computer on a network so you may as well close this hole the size of >> Texas on the machine... It's relatively safe when properly secured but >> it's still a hole the size of Texas and if you don't need it close it. >> >> http://safecomputing.umn.edu/guides/fileandprint.html >> Disable Network Sharing >> >> http://www.nnex.net/tech/winxp/file_print.htm >> Disable File and Print Sharing in Windows XP >> >> http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6600_7-6344921-1.html >> CNET Security Center How to disable File and Printer Sharing >> >> John > > Thanks, John. I disabled file and printer sharing. When you have > time, I welcome your pointing me toward other stuff that is in the > tasklist that can be switched to manual. I assume that 'manual' > means it does not load on startup but still can be loaded when > needed. > Bill |