From: Jasen Betts on
On 2008-11-24, raphaele.thevenin(a)gmail.com <raphaele.thevenin(a)gmail.com> wrote:


>> Special Fresnel lenses tend to cost $5000 for tooling, unfortunately.  I
>> don't know of anyone who uses cylindrical Fresnel lenses at any wavelength.

could you use a reflector instead? cylindrical reflectors are easy to
make :)



From: RFI-EMI-GUY on
raphaele.thevenin(a)gmail.com wrote:
> On Nov 6, 4:25 pm, Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSensel...(a)electrooptical.net>
> wrote:
>> raphaele.theve...(a)gmail.com wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> I am trying to build a special IR motion sensor, I need a one pixel
>>> pyroelectric sensor and a focusing component for IR radiation. For the
>>> pyroelectric device I found the component SSAC10-11 from Nicera. I was
>>> wondering if someone knew if they had any competitors that would sell
>>> the same component so that I could compare them. I was also wondering
>>> if anyone would know where I could find a cylindrical lens focusing IR
>>> radiation onto the pyroelectric component? (I only need a
>>> unidimensional focusing).
>>> Thanks a lot for your help!
>>> Raphaele
>> A good place to start is to rip apart a porch light sensor, and have a
>> good look at how it works--it's quite clever. Lenses for the thermal IR
>> are either (a) big hunks of silicon or germanium that cost $4000, or (b)
>> Fresnel lenses made of high-density polyethylene (as used in bleach
>> bottles) that cost $0.03. For one pixel you're definitely trending
>> towards the HDPE end of things.
>>
>> Special Fresnel lenses tend to cost $5000 for tooling, unfortunately. I
>> don't know of anyone who uses cylindrical Fresnel lenses at any wavelength.
>>
>> If your requirements aren't too stringent, you can probably use the
>> segments of the fancy Fresnel lens in the porch light to do what you need.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Phil Hobbs
>
> Thank you!
> I will look this up. I am indeed having issues with the fact that
> these lenses are really expensive!
> I will take a porch light and rip it apart.
> Thanks for your advice.
>
> Raphaele

Remember that the focal length for IR is somewhat longer than for visual
spectrum so you have to adjust the focal plane for maximum IR focus.

--
Joe Leikhim K4SAT
"The RFI-EMI-GUY"�

"Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason?
For if it prosper, none dare call it treason."

"Follow The Money" ;-P
From: JosephKK on
On 25 Nov 2008 09:58:32 GMT, Jasen Betts <jasen(a)xnet.co.nz> wrote:

>On 2008-11-24, raphaele.thevenin(a)gmail.com <raphaele.thevenin(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>> Special Fresnel lenses tend to cost $5000 for tooling, unfortunately. �I
>>> don't know of anyone who uses cylindrical Fresnel lenses at any wavelength.
>
>could you use a reflector instead? cylindrical reflectors are easy to
>make :)
>
>

The only place i ever found any was navigation lights.