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From: jmfbahciv on 20 Mar 2010 08:47 Seebs wrote: > On 2010-03-19, jmfbahciv <jmfbahciv(a)aol> wrote: >>> does the name Edward Nilges ring a bell? > >> Nope. > > Ahh, you're missing... well. 'ey, Seebs. How are ya doing. > > Edward Nilges is this guy. He's spent the last couple of years railing > against the Cruele And Unjust Turns Of Fate by which Herbert Schildt has > acquired a negative reputation. For instance, because every competent > programmer who's ever commented on his books says they're pants. Ah...my brain mists are clearing a tad. I keep forgetting the kooks. > > He recently responded to my posting of a quick one-off solution to a problem > (figure 10-15 lines of code) with a >100 line version which took him a couple > of hours to write, and several hours to debug. To demonstrate by complete > incompetence at choosing variable names, he had variables named ptrIndex0, > ptrIndex1, ptrIndex2, and ptrIndex3. > > The amazing thing is that, so far as anyone can tell, he actually believes > himself to be serious. yea, I could tell that just from his self-evaluation. > Never mind that he has repeatedly sworn to sue various > people for defamation and never yet gotten to it. > > Here's a fairly representative example: >> In particular, Stroustrup had learned about >> object oriented programming using Simula in Denmark before coming to >> the US, because in Denmark labor unions had real power and demanded >> that factory automation be documented for union oversight. > > That was on one of his comparatively lucid days. Oh, dear. > > (Posting in detail just because afc people might find this amusing.) > Thanks...I think ;-) I'll now be blamed for opening the Spinzzie I/O channel. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 20 Mar 2010 08:54 spinoza1111 wrote: > On Mar 20, 1:24 am, Seebs <usenet-nos...(a)seebs.net> wrote: >> On 2010-03-19, jmfbahciv <jmfbahciv(a)aol> wrote: >> >>>> does the name Edward Nilges ring a bell? >>> Nope. >> Ahh, you're missing... well. <snip snot> >> (Posting in detail just because afc people might find this amusing.) > > We don't find your behavior amusing, Peter. It shall have serious > consequences unless you change. uh-oh. > > Note to afc: although I left programming in disgust after thirty years > because of dweebs like Peter, my programming career spans the IBM > 1401, supercomputing, and .Net object oriented coding. I am the author > of "Build Your Own .Net Language and Compiler", published by Apress in > 2004. Although I taught C at Princeton and was asked to assist John "A > Beautiful Mind" Nash with C in 1991, I abandoned it as my code > addressed GUI platforms as inadequate. I've debugged Fortran compilers > with no source, How did you cause the compiler to compile if you had no FORTRAN code to feed it? > and created a very successful hydrostatic stability > monitor with a graphics library that may have saved lives. I have most > of the work completed in the MSCS with a straight A average. > > Peter Seebach, although another Apress author who's written some sort > of scripting book, the quality of which is unknown to me, has no > academic preparation in computer science Oh, that's why he's so good. >and claims he has a learning > disorder. His "day job" by his own admission, is a typically factored > and rationalized clerical paraprogramming job in which he finds and > reports compiler bugs, perhaps writing a lot of scripts. Only a few people are able to do this kind of work well. <snip> > He's also, as we see above, a very ignorant and incurious person. Seebs?!!! You must have a reading challengement. > <snip> /BAH
From: Walter Bushell on 20 Mar 2010 12:22 In article <hnvqrv31o0k(a)news4.newsguy.com>, jmfbahciv <jmfbahciv(a)aol> wrote: > Walter Bushell wrote: > > In article <601.764T2654T5385823(a)kltpzyxm.invalid>, > > "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs(a)kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote: > > > >> In article <hnt5bs22t2v(a)news4.newsguy.com>, jmfbahciv(a)aol (jmfbahciv) > >> writes: > >> > >>> <grin> My language is MACRO-10. JMF was always tickled whenever > >>> he assembled some code because MACRO would report a "successful" > >>> assembly with the comment "No errors detected". Think about it. ;-) > >> "As far as we know, the system has never had an undetected error." > > > > > > That is true of *all* the code I have wrote. > > > Not mine. I always write an off by one bug. > > /BAH But if the error is ever detected then it is no longer an undetected error. This method brought to you be the department of redundancy department and Information Management Systems Systems (IMS Systems). -- A computer without Microsoft is like a chocolate cake without mustard.
From: Seebs on 20 Mar 2010 14:17 On 2010-03-20, jmfbahciv <jmfbahciv(a)aol> wrote: > spinoza1111 wrote: >> Beautiful Mind" Nash with C in 1991, I abandoned it as my code >> addressed GUI platforms as inadequate. I've debugged Fortran compilers >> with no source, > How did you cause the compiler to compile if you had no FORTRAN code > to feed it? He probably means "no source for the compiler". >> Peter Seebach, although another Apress author who's written some sort >> of scripting book, the quality of which is unknown to me, has no >> academic preparation in computer science > Oh, that's why he's so good. Actually, I'd probably be better if I'd studied CS. It just didn't occur to me. >>and claims he has a learning >> disorder. Two, actually! I have very noticeable clinical ADHD, and I'm also autistic. These are... Well, they're certainly disadvantages for school. They're not awful for actually learning how things work. >> His "day job" by his own admission, is a typically factored >> and rationalized clerical paraprogramming job in which he finds and >> reports compiler bugs, perhaps writing a lot of scripts. This is almost certainly a lie, but it's hard to tell. Certainly, he's been told what I actually do several times. Hint #1: I don't "find" compiler bugs, I just take other people's bugs and forward them. On the other hand, proving that something is a compiler bug is not the most trivial task. Hint #2: I also program in a couple of languages, including C. http://github.com/wrpseudo/pseudo Most recent work: I've been adding chroot(2) emulation. I have it Nearly Working -- I can run a build of ~184 various packages under it, but filesystem assembly for larger filesystems is failing in some unexplained way. (And yes, pseudo is essentially a one-man project, excluding code reviews. I think there's some file-descriptor magic that got reworked while I was on vacation once.) >> He's also, as we see above, a very ignorant and incurious person. > Seebs?!!! You must have a reading challengement. I have no clue where he gets most of this stuff. He amuses me a lot, and honestly, I'd just play around with him and explore the madness, but: 1. Not everyone is on Usenet purely for recreation. 2. Not everyone finds the madness of kooks amusing. I think it's not so much that he has trouble reading, as that he doesn't *think* about what he reads. Thus, even though he'd already heard that I had a degree, when I mentioned not having finished high school, he asserted that I had "failed". Not the most reasonable inference! -s -- Copyright 2010, all wrongs reversed. Peter Seebach / usenet-nospam(a)seebs.net http://www.seebs.net/log/ <-- lawsuits, religion, and funny pictures http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Game_(Scientology) <-- get educated!
From: Richard Heathfield on 21 Mar 2010 03:40
jmfbahciv wrote: > spinoza1111 wrote: >> On Mar 18, 9:19 pm, jmfbahciv <jmfbahciv(a)aol> wrote: <snip> >>> Are you nuts? He can't be, because he says he isn't, and he should know, right? >> No, just that rarity: a competent programmer (the best one in this >> newsgroup, probably) > > Now I know you have a 99% reality filter. > >> who's literate. > > Wrong. there are more capable people in a.f.c. There are more capable people in alt.2eggs.sausage.beans.tomatoes.2toast.largetea.cheerslove -- Richard Heathfield <http://www.cpax.org.uk> Email: -http://www. +rjh@ "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999 Sig line vacant - apply within |