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From: BURT on 8 Aug 2010 18:24 On Aug 8, 3:10 pm, Raymond Yohros <b...(a)birdband.net> wrote: > On Aug 8, 4:55 pm, Jacko <jackokr...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 8 Aug, 22:36, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > If there is mutual dilation. If they always see the other running > > > slower then when does one age faster than the other? If it is mutual > > > and you never can see the other but going slower then how is it going > > > to happen? > > > > Address lost time for the train passing the station. > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > The equivelence of the step deceleration of the reveral of path to > > revisit the twin. What's the effective gravity dilation of time when > > the deceleration is not geodesic motion? > > to understand time dilatation, you most understand the > flow of EM itself. you never see big mass moving > around c around you but if it could, how would it look? > > that is the job of cyclotrons > > r.y If one clock ages faster than the other then the effect is not mutual. Mitch Raemsch
From: Raymond Yohros on 8 Aug 2010 18:43 On Aug 8, 5:24 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Aug 8, 3:10 pm, Raymond Yohros <b...(a)birdband.net> wrote: > > > > > > > On Aug 8, 4:55 pm, Jacko <jackokr...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On 8 Aug, 22:36, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > If there is mutual dilation. If they always see the other running > > > > slower then when does one age faster than the other? If it is mutual > > > > and you never can see the other but going slower then how is it going > > > > to happen? > > > > > Address lost time for the train passing the station. > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > The equivelence of the step deceleration of the reveral of path to > > > revisit the twin. What's the effective gravity dilation of time when > > > the deceleration is not geodesic motion? > > > to understand time dilatation, you most understand the > > flow of EM itself. you never see big mass moving > > around c around you but if it could, how would it look? > > > that is the job of cyclotrons > > > r.y > > If one clock ages faster than the other then the effect is not mutual. > the effect is relative to each motion. r.y
From: BURT on 8 Aug 2010 18:45 On Aug 8, 3:43 pm, Raymond Yohros <b...(a)birdband.net> wrote: > On Aug 8, 5:24 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Aug 8, 3:10 pm, Raymond Yohros <b...(a)birdband.net> wrote: > > > > On Aug 8, 4:55 pm, Jacko <jackokr...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On 8 Aug, 22:36, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > If there is mutual dilation. If they always see the other running > > > > > slower then when does one age faster than the other? If it is mutual > > > > > and you never can see the other but going slower then how is it going > > > > > to happen? > > > > > > Address lost time for the train passing the station. > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > The equivelence of the step deceleration of the reveral of path to > > > > revisit the twin. What's the effective gravity dilation of time when > > > > the deceleration is not geodesic motion? > > > > to understand time dilatation, you most understand the > > > flow of EM itself. you never see big mass moving > > > around c around you but if it could, how would it look? > > > > that is the job of cyclotrons > > > > r.y > > > If one clock ages faster than the other then the effect is not mutual. > > the effect is relative to each motion. > > r.y- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - But relative motions are equal in rate for the train and the embankment or station. Mitch Raemsch
From: Inertial on 8 Aug 2010 19:50 "BURT" wrote in message news:0fc5877a-a9ee-4852-bc7d-57ecab6f9909(a)u4g2000prn.googlegroups.com... > >If there is mutual dilation. If they always see the other running >slower then when does one age faster than the other? If it is mutual >and you never can see the other but going slower then how is it going >to happen? SR does not claim the train ages faster than the station .. or vice versa. . they both age the same.
From: BURT on 8 Aug 2010 21:03
On Aug 8, 4:50 pm, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote: > "BURT" wrote in message > > news:0fc5877a-a9ee-4852-bc7d-57ecab6f9909(a)u4g2000prn.googlegroups.com... > > > > >If there is mutual dilation. If they always see the other running > >slower then when does one age faster than the other? If it is mutual > >and you never can see the other but going slower then how is it going > >to happen? > > SR does not claim the train ages faster than the station .. or vice versa.. . > they both age the same. Are you arguing that the train can't move fast enough to reveal Relativity? It is low inverse Gamma. That does not matter. This is always a Gedanken. If Gamma dilation is mutual be it small then how can one age more? Mitch Raemsch |