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From: Vladimir Kirov on 26 Jul 2010 10:49

jbriggs444:
>
> And it sounds like you've decided that the gravitational
> acceleration around an object of mass M at radius R
> may be no greater than the centripetal acceleration
> of an object orbitting at the speed of light.
>
> f = m1 v^2 / r
> f = G m1 m2 / r^2
>
> Let v = c, solve for G and mess with the variable names slightly.
>
> G = m1 v^2 / r / ( m1 m2 / r^2 )
> = v^2 r / m2
> = R c^2 / M
>
> Or, more properly:
>
> G <= R c^2 / M
>
> All taken under the assumptions of Euclidean
> geometry and Newtonian mechanics, of course.
>
> Now you have one major problem. You propose
> this as a limitation on G. But the limitation is
> expressed in terms of variables M and R.
>
> G is what it is. It can be measured. It is a
> constant. So the formula might be better
> expressed as:
>
> M <= R c^2 / G
>
> Expressed this way it is clearly a limitation
> on how much mass you can assemble within
> a given radius without reaching a point where
> the assembly has a [Newtonian] orbital
> velocity in excess of c.


Since until there was restrictions on mass, but only on radius for
light, think under big mass G can begin to decrease. Situation is
hypothetical.



From: BURT on 26 Jul 2010 16:16
On Jul 26, 6:52 am, Igor <thoov...(a)excite.com> wrote:
> On Jul 26, 12:01 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > If there is an acceleration limit below the speed of light
>
> There's not, so you're doa right there.

Light doesn't slow from C while leaving gravity therefore it doesn't
have an escape velocity like matter does.

Mitch Raemsch
From: herbert glazier on 26 Jul 2010 20:06
On Jul 26, 12:01 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> If there is an acceleration limit below the speed of light and gravity
> strength is equivalent to acceleration then a gravity limit defines
> the force.
>
> The acceleration limit is enforced by weight at all times.
>
> Gravity is a limited acceleration below the speed of light enforced by
> weight.
>
> Mitch Raemsch

That is true if evern photons passing through the event horizon can't
go faster than c They must be the very bluest of all photons.
Electrons can never reach c,but in the Fermi accelerator going at
99.999999999 of c they weigh 70,000 times their rest mass. All this
Einstein told us when he was 26 TreBert
From: herbert glazier on 26 Jul 2010 20:09
On Jul 26, 4:16 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 26, 6:52 am, Igor <thoov...(a)excite.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 26, 12:01 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > If there is an acceleration limit below the speed of light
>
> > There's not, so you're doa right there.
>
> Light doesn't slow from C while leaving gravity therefore it doesn't
> have an escape velocity like matter does.
>
> Mitch Raemsch

Space expansion need not obey SR It could go faster than c I know
why TreBert
From: Igor on 27 Jul 2010 09:50
On Jul 26, 4:16 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 26, 6:52 am, Igor <thoov...(a)excite.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 26, 12:01 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > If there is an acceleration limit below the speed of light
>
> > There's not, so you're doa right there.
>
> Light doesn't slow from C while leaving gravity therefore it doesn't
> have an escape velocity like matter does.
>
> Mitch Raemsch

That's totally nonsensical, but even so, how would that limit
acceleration?

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