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From: Vladimir Kirov on 26 Jul 2010 10:49 jbriggs444: > > And it sounds like you've decided that the gravitational > acceleration around an object of mass M at radius R > may be no greater than the centripetal acceleration > of an object orbitting at the speed of light. > > f = m1 v^2 / r > f = G m1 m2 / r^2 > > Let v = c, solve for G and mess with the variable names slightly. > > G = m1 v^2 / r / ( m1 m2 / r^2 ) > = v^2 r / m2 > = R c^2 / M > > Or, more properly: > > G <= R c^2 / M > > All taken under the assumptions of Euclidean > geometry and Newtonian mechanics, of course. > > Now you have one major problem. You propose > this as a limitation on G. But the limitation is > expressed in terms of variables M and R. > > G is what it is. It can be measured. It is a > constant. So the formula might be better > expressed as: > > M <= R c^2 / G > > Expressed this way it is clearly a limitation > on how much mass you can assemble within > a given radius without reaching a point where > the assembly has a [Newtonian] orbital > velocity in excess of c. Since until there was restrictions on mass, but only on radius for light, think under big mass G can begin to decrease. Situation is hypothetical.
From: BURT on 26 Jul 2010 16:16 On Jul 26, 6:52 am, Igor <thoov...(a)excite.com> wrote: > On Jul 26, 12:01 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > If there is an acceleration limit below the speed of light > > There's not, so you're doa right there. Light doesn't slow from C while leaving gravity therefore it doesn't have an escape velocity like matter does. Mitch Raemsch
From: herbert glazier on 26 Jul 2010 20:06 On Jul 26, 12:01 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > If there is an acceleration limit below the speed of light and gravity > strength is equivalent to acceleration then a gravity limit defines > the force. > > The acceleration limit is enforced by weight at all times. > > Gravity is a limited acceleration below the speed of light enforced by > weight. > > Mitch Raemsch That is true if evern photons passing through the event horizon can't go faster than c They must be the very bluest of all photons. Electrons can never reach c,but in the Fermi accelerator going at 99.999999999 of c they weigh 70,000 times their rest mass. All this Einstein told us when he was 26 TreBert
From: herbert glazier on 26 Jul 2010 20:09 On Jul 26, 4:16 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jul 26, 6:52 am, Igor <thoov...(a)excite.com> wrote: > > > On Jul 26, 12:01 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > If there is an acceleration limit below the speed of light > > > There's not, so you're doa right there. > > Light doesn't slow from C while leaving gravity therefore it doesn't > have an escape velocity like matter does. > > Mitch Raemsch Space expansion need not obey SR It could go faster than c I know why TreBert
From: Igor on 27 Jul 2010 09:50
On Jul 26, 4:16 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jul 26, 6:52 am, Igor <thoov...(a)excite.com> wrote: > > > On Jul 26, 12:01 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > If there is an acceleration limit below the speed of light > > > There's not, so you're doa right there. > > Light doesn't slow from C while leaving gravity therefore it doesn't > have an escape velocity like matter does. > > Mitch Raemsch That's totally nonsensical, but even so, how would that limit acceleration? |