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From: Blue Venom on 5 May 2010 05:54 05/05/2010 9.59, Alois Steindl: > Hello, > since that sounds much like a homework, you should definitivly try to do > it yourself. If you don't have any clue, you should read, what you have > learned in the recent lectures; if you don't understand that, you have > to go back, until you understand it. > Newsgroups are not for cheating. > Alois Hello, this is homework of a course I did not and will not attend, so nobody is grading these things (not even taking a look at them in facts). I'm doing this because I'm attending another course about ODEs and there are prerequisites I do not know. The exercises usually (this one for instance) have many more questions (that I answer by myself). I just post what I cannot get to grips with in a reasonable amount of time. Bye bye
From: Blue Venom on 5 May 2010 05:56 > Hint: > > sinh(x) satisfies the differential equation > y' = sqrt(1+y^2). > > Best wishes > Torsten. Thanks, It was what I first thought about, although the calculations were clearly wrong as it didn't look true to me the first time (it does now).
From: Ray Vickson on 5 May 2010 12:24 On May 5, 2:56 am, Blue Venom <mandalayray1...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hint: > > > sinh(x) satisfies the differential equation > > y' = sqrt(1+y^2). > > > Best wishes > > Torsten. > > Thanks, It was what I first thought about, although the calculations > were clearly wrong as it didn't look true to me the first time (it does > now). What does this sentence mean? It is unclear what you are claiming and what you believe to be the case now. R.G. Vickson
From: Blue Venom on 5 May 2010 12:38 > What does this sentence mean? It is unclear what you are claiming and > what you believe to be the case now. That the hint helped me. I'd already thought about it (before posting) but when I calculated sqrt(1+senh(x)^2) I made a stupid mistake and things didn't add up.
From: Ray Vickson on 5 May 2010 13:04
On May 4, 6:00 pm, Blue Venom <mandalayray1...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > y'=SQRT(1+x2+y2) > y(0)=0 > > Assuming there exists a local and unique solution defined on (-d,d), > prove that the solution y is defined for all x in R and that y(x) >= > sinh(x) for all x >=0. > > Any hint? Sorry, I take back what I said in my first reply. I used the wrong DE (forgot the "1+" on the right). When I re-solve using the *correct* DE numerically I DO get your original conclusion; that is, it does appear that y(x) >= sinh(x) for x >= 0 with the inequality being strict (and growing) for x > 0. I should learn not to post messages when I am tired. However, as far as a proof goes, I have no helpful hints to offer. R.G. Vickson |