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From: David H. Lipman on 21 Mar 2010 21:35 From: "russg" <russgilb(a)sbcglobal.net> | On Mar 21, 6:48 pm, "FromTheRafters" <erra...(a)nomail.afraid.org> | wrote: >> "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nosp...(a)Verizon.Net> wrote in >> messagenews:ho5sh802gm4(a)news3.newsguy.com... >> not> Since it is a trojan, it does >> self replicate and as such does not >> > auto-spread. Trojans >> > need assistance to be installed such as Social Engineering (human >> > exploit) software >> > vulnerabilities, web site compramise, etc. >> o | Most (many?) usenet groups have a FAQ. The FAQ is usually more than a | poster with a problem will | want to read. I still am unsure of the distinction of virus, trojan, | worm. I am sure that all three are | malware, but I don't think alt.comp.malware would get much traffic. | If the FAQ is posted once a | month, or URLed mentioned, then it is fair to expect posters to know | what's in the FAQ and | refer people to it. | I think there was a typo in one of Dave Lipman's responses: | "Since it is a trojan, it does (? doesn't) self replicate and as such | does not auto-spread. Trojans | need assistance to be installed such as Social Engineer (human | exploit) software | vulnerabilities, web site compromise, etc." | I apologize for suggesting a FAQ I'm not qualified to write. | Plain usenetiquet to not multi-post, wouldn't go in a alt.comp.virus | FAQ, so we would still get those. | Regards There is a FAQ but, it is old and outdated. http://www.faqs.org/faqs/computer-virus/posting-guidelines/ -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
From: David H. Lipman on 21 Mar 2010 21:36 From: "FromTheRafters" <erratic(a)nomail.afraid.org> | "russg" <russgilb(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message | news:28779163-f1e6-4bea-b79b-6dd5cd476391(a)q16g2000yqq.googlegroups.com... | I think there was a typo in one of Dave Lipman's responses: | *** | I let it slide the first time (and the misspelling), but he must have | copied and pasted it anew here, so I couldn't resist. | Now if I could just get Dustin to stop using quiet for quite... | *** Yepper... I phucked up my post(s) again :-( -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
From: Dustin Cook on 21 Mar 2010 23:21 "FromTheRafters" <erratic(a)nomail.afraid.org> wrote in news:ho6go6$nsv$1 @news.eternal-september.org: > "russg" <russgilb(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > news:28779163-f1e6-4bea-b79b-6dd5cd476391(a)q16g2000yqq.googlegroups.com... > > I think there was a typo in one of Dave Lipman's responses: > > *** > I let it slide the first time (and the misspelling), but he must have > copied and pasted it anew here, so I couldn't resist. > Now if I could just get Dustin to stop using quiet for quite... > *** > > > Oops. :) -- "Hrrngh! Someday I'm going to hurl this...er...roll this...hrrngh.. nudge this boulder right down a cliff." - Goblin Warrior
From: Dustin Cook on 21 Mar 2010 23:22 "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in news:ho6f0t02tp1(a)news3.newsguy.com: > From: "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> > > That post should only have been... > > "Remember that so-called benevolent email virus Netsky that purported > to remove MyDoom and Bagle (Mitglieder) ?" > Well, it did as it claimed to do. :) It just.. well, didn't leave when it completed those tasks.. -- "Hrrngh! Someday I'm going to hurl this...er...roll this...hrrngh.. nudge this boulder right down a cliff." - Goblin Warrior
From: Dustin Cook on 21 Mar 2010 23:23
"FromTheRafters" <erratic(a)nomail.afraid.org> wrote in news:ho6f1m$dmb$1(a)news.eternal-september.org: > "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:Xns9D42CD8C94A5AHHI2948AJD832(a)69.16.185.250... >> "FromTheRafters" <erratic(a)nomail.afraid.org> wrote in >> news:ho68m8$4vl$1 >> @news.eternal-september.org: >> >>> "The Real Truth MVP" <trt(a)void.com> wrote in message >>> news:ho64qb$9v0$1(a)leythos.motzarella.org... >>>> MS calls them Trojan virus so nobody is wrong or right. >>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/129972 >>> >>> I was aware of that (and from many other reputable vendors of >>> antivirus/antimalware). >>> >>> Just because they are experts, doesn't make them right. :o) >>> >>> I prefer the definitions proposed by non-antimalware experts >>> (computer >>> science experts) because I agree with them that viruses (in >>> particular) >>> are not necessarily malicious and could be applied benevolently. >> >> And yet, no-one has written a completely harmless virus which has any >> benefit whatsoever that couldn't be achieved, non-virally.... It's >> been a >> very long long time, and still; nothing fitting that criteria has >> ever been >> produced by the proponents of a "good" virus. :) >> >> I just want you to know, that paragraph took a bit of typing for me; >> I was >> once one of the bad guys. hehehe... I hate being wrong, ya know? :) > > I understand your reluctance. But be that as it may, it doesn't > preclude any future need to use the viral function. One that I > mentioned in a previous discussion was in regard to replicating > robotic pioneers. While they are close enough to have command and > control send new software, there is no need for viruses. If they get > too far away for that to be feasible, self-replicating software must > accompany the self-replicating robots. > > > That's a very interesting theory of thought...My robotics knowledge is severly outdated.. -- "Hrrngh! Someday I'm going to hurl this...er...roll this...hrrngh.. nudge this boulder right down a cliff." - Goblin Warrior |