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From: kj [SBS MVP] on 22 Oct 2009 15:18
Need for 64bit VMs might kill your thoughts on Win7 and VPC-v7

Of course you could run Win7 as a Hyper-v Server guest. ;-)


Ace Fekay [MCT] wrote:
> "moondaddy" <moondaddy(a)newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
> news:%23TU1UAzUKHA.1236(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Thanks Ace!
>>
>> I was very dissatisfied with Virtual PC and Virtual Server 2005
>> which is why I moved to Windows Server 2008 R2 and Hyper-V. Obviously I
>> don't need to manage VMs in the way an enterprise would,
>> but I do need a good way to manage about 10+ VMs for software
>> development. Ease of setup, undoing or restoring to previous VM
>> configurations after doing a test install, coping a base VM to a new
>> VM and creating a new SID, etc. is much easier in Hyper-V. Has this
>> been improved in Virtual PC for windows 7?
>
>
> Well, kind of a little better to manage multiple machines with the
> VMRC. Take a look at the following links for more info. I think you
> will like it.
> Download details: Virtual Machine Remote Control Client Plus ...Jun
> 17, 2008 ...
> VMRCplus is a tool for both configuration management of Virtual
> Server and ... VMRCplus should be used with Virtual Server 2005 R2
> SP1.
> http://www.microsoft.com/DownLoads/details.aspx?familyid=80ADC08C-BFC6-4C3A-B4F1-772F550AE791&displaylang=en
>
> Manage Virtual Server Machines with VMRC PlusAs some of you know, a
> few Microsoft employees have been spotted working with a cool tool
> called VMRC Plus, which is an improved version of the VMRC client.
> www.petri.co.il/virtual-manage-virtual-server-vmrc-plus.htm
>
> Ace

--
/kj


From: moondaddy on 22 Oct 2009 15:39
in other words, I cant create a 64 bit VM in Win7 VPC?

"kj [SBS MVP]" <KevinJ.SBS(a)SPAMFREE.gmail.com> wrote in message
news:#7mJCy0UKHA.4004(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Need for 64bit VMs might kill your thoughts on Win7 and VPC-v7
>
> Of course you could run Win7 as a Hyper-v Server guest. ;-)
>
>
> Ace Fekay [MCT] wrote:
>> "moondaddy" <moondaddy(a)newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
>> news:%23TU1UAzUKHA.1236(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Thanks Ace!
>>>
>>> I was very dissatisfied with Virtual PC and Virtual Server 2005
>>> which is why I moved to Windows Server 2008 R2 and Hyper-V. Obviously I
>>> don't need to manage VMs in the way an enterprise would,
>>> but I do need a good way to manage about 10+ VMs for software
>>> development. Ease of setup, undoing or restoring to previous VM
>>> configurations after doing a test install, coping a base VM to a new
>>> VM and creating a new SID, etc. is much easier in Hyper-V. Has this
>>> been improved in Virtual PC for windows 7?
>>
>>
>> Well, kind of a little better to manage multiple machines with the
>> VMRC. Take a look at the following links for more info. I think you
>> will like it.
>> Download details: Virtual Machine Remote Control Client Plus ...Jun
>> 17, 2008 ...
>> VMRCplus is a tool for both configuration management of Virtual
>> Server and ... VMRCplus should be used with Virtual Server 2005 R2
>> SP1.
>> http://www.microsoft.com/DownLoads/details.aspx?familyid=80ADC08C-BFC6-4C3A-B4F1-772F550AE791&displaylang=en
>>
>> Manage Virtual Server Machines with VMRC PlusAs some of you know, a
>> few Microsoft employees have been spotted working with a cool tool
>> called VMRC Plus, which is an improved version of the VMRC client.
>> www.petri.co.il/virtual-manage-virtual-server-vmrc-plus.htm
>>
>> Ace
>
> --
> /kj
>
From: moondaddy on 22 Oct 2009 15:45
Thanks. I was using Virtual Server 2005 R2 SP1 and VMRCPlus before
converting my OS to Win Server 2008 R2 and got spoiled on Hyper-V. I was
hoping there would be modern improvements for developers in the VM world
with out having to move up to Hyper-V. a few of my critical apps don't run
too well on the server OS and I have some licensing issues with other apps
that don't want to be licensed on a server with out paying big bucks.
Hyper-V on a power workstation would be nice for developers.

"Ace Fekay [MCT]" <aceman(a)mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote in message
news:u287jSzUKHA.4688(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> "moondaddy" <moondaddy(a)newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
> news:%23TU1UAzUKHA.1236(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Thanks Ace!
>>
>> I was very dissatisfied with Virtual PC and Virtual Server 2005 which is
>> why I moved to Windows Server 2008 R2 and Hyper-V. Obviously I don't
>> need to manage VMs in the way an enterprise would, but I do need a good
>> way to manage about 10+ VMs for software development. Ease of setup,
>> undoing or restoring to previous VM configurations after doing a test
>> install, coping a base VM to a new VM and creating a new SID, etc. is
>> much easier in Hyper-V. Has this been improved in Virtual PC for windows
>> 7?
>>
>
>
> Well, kind of a little better to manage multiple machines with the VMRC.
> Take a look at the following links for more info. I think you will like
> it.
>
> Download details: Virtual Machine Remote Control Client Plus ...Jun 17,
> 2008 ...
> VMRCplus is a tool for both configuration management of Virtual Server and
> ... VMRCplus should be used with Virtual Server 2005 R2 SP1.
> http://www.microsoft.com/DownLoads/details.aspx?familyid=80ADC08C-BFC6-4C3A-B4F1-772F550AE791&displaylang=en
>
> Manage Virtual Server Machines with VMRC PlusAs some of you know, a few
> Microsoft employees have been spotted working with a cool tool called VMRC
> Plus, which is an improved version of the VMRC client.
> www.petri.co.il/virtual-manage-virtual-server-vmrc-plus.htm
>
> Ace
>
From: kj [SBS MVP] on 22 Oct 2009 15:54
moondaddy wrote:
> in other words, I cant create a 64 bit VM in Win7 VPC?

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/features/compare.aspx

Sometimes what tells the story is what's missing.

>
> "kj [SBS MVP]" <KevinJ.SBS(a)SPAMFREE.gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:#7mJCy0UKHA.4004(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Need for 64bit VMs might kill your thoughts on Win7 and VPC-v7
>>
>> Of course you could run Win7 as a Hyper-v Server guest. ;-)
>>
>>
>> Ace Fekay [MCT] wrote:
>>> "moondaddy" <moondaddy(a)newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
>>> news:%23TU1UAzUKHA.1236(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Thanks Ace!
>>>>
>>>> I was very dissatisfied with Virtual PC and Virtual Server 2005
>>>> which is why I moved to Windows Server 2008 R2 and Hyper-V.
>>>> Obviously I don't need to manage VMs in the way an enterprise
>>>> would, but I do need a good way to manage about 10+ VMs for software
>>>> development. Ease of setup, undoing or restoring to previous VM
>>>> configurations after doing a test install, coping a base VM to a
>>>> new VM and creating a new SID, etc. is much easier in Hyper-V. Has
>>>> this been improved in Virtual PC for windows 7?
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, kind of a little better to manage multiple machines with the
>>> VMRC. Take a look at the following links for more info. I think you
>>> will like it.
>>> Download details: Virtual Machine Remote Control Client Plus ...Jun
>>> 17, 2008 ...
>>> VMRCplus is a tool for both configuration management of Virtual
>>> Server and ... VMRCplus should be used with Virtual Server 2005 R2
>>> SP1.
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/DownLoads/details.aspx?familyid=80ADC08C-BFC6-4C3A-B4F1-772F550AE791&displaylang=en
>>>
>>> Manage Virtual Server Machines with VMRC PlusAs some of you know, a
>>> few Microsoft employees have been spotted working with a cool tool
>>> called VMRC Plus, which is an improved version of the VMRC client.
>>> www.petri.co.il/virtual-manage-virtual-server-vmrc-plus.htm
>>>
>>> Ace
>>
>> --
>> /kj

--
/kj


From: Ace Fekay [MCT] on 22 Oct 2009 16:06
"moondaddy" <moondaddy(a)newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
news:%23eIoiB1UKHA.4484(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Thanks. I was using Virtual Server 2005 R2 SP1 and VMRCPlus before
> converting my OS to Win Server 2008 R2 and got spoiled on Hyper-V. I was
> hoping there would be modern improvements for developers in the VM world
> with out having to move up to Hyper-V. a few of my critical apps don't
> run too well on the server OS and I have some licensing issues with other
> apps that don't want to be licensed on a server with out paying big bucks.
> Hyper-V on a power workstation would be nice for developers.
>

I can understand licensing and app limitations, however it seems Windows 7's
limits will be a factor. Hopefull kj's suggestions are helpful, otherwise,
you may have to stick to Windows 2003 with VS 2005 R2 until things change.

Ace


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