Installation of Sparcom Celestial pack library for HP 50G
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From: Jiri on 25 Aug 2009 04:48 Hallo, Firstly I am new to HP 50G and in this forum, so aplogize for basic questions. Primary reason why I bought HP 50G is Celestial Navigation. I want to install Sparcom Celestial pack library for HP 50G: http://www.hpcalc.org/details.php?id=7082 I have RCL ed the library to the memory stack and when I wanted to store it to Port 2 (flash) I got insufficient memory message. I have 650 Kb free space on the flash. I understand, that there are 128 memory segments eg 131072 bytes. Size of the library is 130933. So it should fit there? I also read somewhere, that the actual available size is 131072 - 256 - 6, so this library should not fit there. How it is? I hope, that if somebody created this library, it should be possible to load it to the calculator. Why I have this problem? If this library would not fit to the calculator, is there possibility to fix it (for instance by cutting some functionality). Does anybody know, how to do it? I still hope, that it is again "being new problem" Thank yu for help and support, Jiri
From: andreas_moellerNOSPAM on 25 Aug 2009 05:58 Hello, you already asked that question and you already got an answer. http://forums13.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/bizsupport/questionanswer.do?threadId=1365855 Asking again will not change the facts. > size is 131072 - 256 - 6, so this library should not fit there. How it is? The size of the library is still 130925 Bytes and the checksum is # 97B1h. So it will not fit in Port2 as stated in the readme file. > I hope, that if somebody created this library You did read about the tragic death of the author ? > it should be possible > to load it to the calculator. Why I have this problem? It fits in Port0 or Port1, so store it there. > Does anybody know, how to do > it? Break it apart, squeeze some bytes out (if possible) and rebuild it. > I still hope, that it is again "being new problem" This is a "I do not want to bother with it, maybe somebody else can do it for me" problem, which sadly is common nowadays. Read the FAQ and the manuals ! Regards, Andreas http://www.software49g.gmxhome.de
From: greenchile505 on 25 Aug 2009 11:59 On Aug 25, 2:58 am, andreas_moellerNOS...(a)gmx.de wrote: > This is a "I do not want to bother with it, maybe somebody else can do > it for me" problem, which sadly is common nowadays. > Read the FAQ and the manuals ! Andreas, I do not think this is one of those "I'm lazy and need the correct answer in order to finish my homework" problems, as you call it. You may have misspoken. The poster mentions he bought a 50g primarily for this application, and indeed thought it should work having read the file description on hpcalc.org. Based on this information, you actually expect a brand new user to "Break it apart, squeeze some bytes out, and rebuild it"? I am afraid we are not all HP commercial programmers, such as yourself. Also, I do not think english is the user's native tongue. When he wrote "I hope, that if somebody created this library it should be possible to load it to the calculator" I think he meant "E. Dost took the time to patch and port this cool program (written by Thomas Metcalf (RIP)) to the 49g/50g. Should it not work on my 50g?" Your comment "You did read about the tragic death of the author ?" is unneccessary and disparaging. Or perhaps I am not interpreting your english perfectly. (For the record, the README states: "The HP49/50 library can only be installed to port 0, or IRAM, due to size limitations in the flash banks.") .... Regards, Pal G.
From: andreas_moellerNOSPAM on 25 Aug 2009 13:07 Hello, now look, I do not want to turn this into a flame. > and indeed thought it should work having read the file description on > hpcalc.org. You can clearly tell by the question that the author either did not read this and even more if you read http://forums13.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/bizsupport/questionanswer.do?threadId=1365855 If he read it and did not understand it than the first task would be to read it so often until it has been understood, after all that was the reason why it was written down. And if he expects, that a complex tool can be used without any knowledge that I do not want to be near to the boat where this person is navigating... There is nothing wrong in asking questions, I do that all the time, too. But what really annoys me are questions which show that the questioner did not even bother about the simplest things. Usually it annoys me so much that I do not bother and I should probably keep it that way... There are two ways if you are new to something: 1. just babbling around 2. try to figure out what is happening through the resources given (manuel, FAQs, readmes, etc.) and then when you are sure that you have checked at least a little bit and do not know what to do further then ask (hopefully in a polite and intelligent way because one can tell by the question what has been done by the questioner so far.) That way you show some respect to the persons who you are expecting to answer and in this case the questioner deserves an answer. Clearly it has been my fault that I have taken the time twice answering such a post. Hopefully I will remind myself so that this will not happen again. I dimly remember that once there was something called netiquette at a time were bandwidth was still precious, at that time comp.sys.hp48 was a well of resources, today it is only a Google group and people are asking for the moderator. Nowadays you only have posts like: How do I install a library. Again, I apologize, clearly my fault. > Or perhaps I am not interpreting your english perfectly. My comment was in no way meant the way you are interpreting it. Please note that English is also not my mother tongue. Lets close this thread, Andreas http://www.software49g.gmxhome.de
From: Jiri on 25 Aug 2009 15:44 On Aug 25, 7:07 pm, andreas_moellerNOS...(a)gmx.de wrote: > Hello, > > now look, I do not want to turn this into a flame. > > > and indeed thought it should work having read the file description on > > hpcalc.org. > > You can clearly tell by the question that the author either did not > read this and even more if you readhttp://forums13.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/bizsupport/questionanswer.... > If he read it and did not understand it than the first task would be > to read it so often until it has been understood, after all that was > the reason why it was written down. > And if he expects, that a complex tool can be used without any > knowledge that I do not want to be near to the boat where this person > is navigating... > > There is nothing wrong in asking questions, I do that all the time, > too. But what really annoys me are questions which show that the > questioner did not even bother about the simplest things. Usually it > annoys me so much that I do not bother and I should probably keep it > that way... > > There are two ways if you are new to something: > 1. just babbling around > 2. try to figure out what is happening through the resources given > (manuel, FAQs, readmes, etc.) and then when you are sure that you have > checked at least a little bit and do not know what to do further then > ask (hopefully in a polite and intelligent way because one can tell by > the question what has been done by the questioner so far.) > That way you show some respect to the persons who you are expecting to > answer and in this case the questioner deserves an answer. > > Clearly it has been my fault that I have taken the time twice > answering such a post. Hopefully I will remind myself so that this > will not happen again. > > I dimly remember that once there was something called netiquette at a > time were bandwidth was still precious, at that time comp.sys.hp48 was > a well of resources, today it is only a Google group and people are > asking for the moderator. Nowadays you only have posts like: How do I > install a library. > Again, I apologize, clearly my fault. > > > Or perhaps I am not interpreting your english perfectly. > > My comment was in no way meant the way you are interpreting it. Please > note that English is also not my mother tongue. > > Lets close this thread, > Andreashttp://www.software49g.gmxhome.de Hallo everybody I just made the Spracom Celestial navigation running on my one week old HP 50G. Though it was not pleasant reading, Andreas thanks for giving me the right direction...I felt a bit ashamed, reading that the solution is in README file, though in very simple sentence. The reason why I did not opened it was, that there is no postfix, so I was not sure which text editor to use.....Probably next time I will be more courageous. Anyway here is my lessons learnt for others: - simply open README file in the Word and read it - it is quite interesting reading - load spracom library to SD memory and put it to the calculator (there is also an option to load the file through USB connection with PC) - use leftshit FILE and function RCL to load library to calculator memory stack - get out of File Manager - enter 0 (for Port 0) - press STO - press simultaneously ON and F3 (this makes warm restart} - press rightshift LIB and you should see NAV48 hot key - press NAV48 hotkey and you should start Spracom Navigation pack - press QUIT hotkey when you want to leave Spracom Navigation pack - read attached .pdf for detailed navigation instructions I agree, we can close this thread. Jiri
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