From: Gage on
Any private conversation that doesn't
: * involve criminality should be private"
: *
: * In other words, as the debate was framed by Bayse, the right to
: * privacy is at least partly contingent on a determination by an FBI
: * agent or clerk that the conversations they already intercepted and
: * understood do not involve a crime.


Do you want to live in a real live Big Brother world?

It is not at all about trying to keep up with technology in order to wiretap.

The phone companies are already able and authorized to listen in on any
line at any time, to check the integrity of the network.

I've heard some funny stories by old Bell System employees about a bunch of
people listening into private conversations, and having a hoot.

Question: How can the FBI use computers to monitor thousands and thousands
and thousands and thousands of phone calls simultaneously, as they
said they would do with the bill, when we Americans speak so many
different accents and languages?

Answer: Thirty years of fine tuning by the NSA, y'all.


The Digital Telephony Act will allow them to legally - at full
wiretapping capacity - dragnet-monitor the telephone network.

Each line monitored will not require a warrant.

And how did they get this CALEA legislation?

* "Government Access", by Jim Warren
*
* At the administration's pleading, the [Democrat-controlled] Congress
* rammed it through in less than two months, w


From: Rotwang on
Williams was a scholar who could read Greek and
# Hebrew.


The New York Times, CyberTimes, April 29, 1997

The Police and Civil Liberties

A unanimous Supreme Court affirmed the importance of civil liberties
yesterday when it ruled against exempting ALL drug raids from the Fourth
Amendment's requirement that police executing a search warrant knock and
announce their presence before entering someone's home or hotel room.

The Court's unanimity in the case is a special embarrassment for the Clinton
Administration, which argued that a no-knock entry should routinely be allowed
in drug searches unless the police knew that neither they nor the evidence
would be in danger if they announced their presence.

----

Illegal drugs are a great benefit to drug dealers.

The Drug War is a great benefit for perpetuating
and expanding corrupt Governmental power.

# "Smoke and Mirrors---The War on Drugs and the Politics of Failure"
# By Dan Baum, ISBN 0-316-08412-3, 1997
#
# The War on Drugs made the criminal justice system one of the top growth
# industries during the eighties and nineties.



From: Pubkeybreaker on
network.

Each line monitored will not require a warrant.

And how did they get this CALEA legislation?

* "Government Access", by Jim Warren
*
* At the administration's pleading, the [Democrat-controlled] Congress
* rammed it through in less than two months, with no substantive hearings.
*
* Literally in the dark of night, without debate, it passed in the house
* by voice vote and two nights later by unanimous consent in the Senate,
* only minutes before adjourning to rush home for their important work:
* campaigning for re-election.

The NSA domestic watch-list is probably already stuffed
full enough to use the complete CALEA capacity.

You can select many more lines for monitoring than actually end up active
at the same time. The effect is indistinguishable from a MUCH larger
monitoring capacity.

Even greater when the software programmatically decides (at the FBI end) which
conversations to continue listening to.

I'm sure law-enforcement will be able to dynamically configure their
connection to the phone companies' networks.

And probably cheat to use ECHELON to direct this programmatic control,
yielding no effective monit


From: Risto Lankinen on
level security for IRAQI cartoons. Clueless autopilot secrecy.

The ultimate in bureaucratic capture:

# "Failures of Leadership on Land Mines", NYT editorial, 6/21/97
#
# Land mines are responsible for killing 10,000 people worldwide each year,
# most of them innocent civilians, including children.
#
# Never before has the momentum to ban all land mines been so strong. A high
# percentage of battlefield casualties among American troops are by mines.
#
# Yet President Clinton and Vice President Gore are meekly yielding to the
# wrongheaded opposition of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, even though they
# claim to support the ban themselves.
#
# Even General Norman Schwarzkopf and pro-military Republican Senators like
# John McCain, Alfonse D'Amato and Chuck Hagel have all endorsed the ban.
#
# America's proud tradition of CIVILIAN CONTROL [a distant memory!] of the
# military gives the President responsibility for making the final decision.
#
# Mr. Clinton is shirking his responsibility.

The Military are in control of ALL KEY POLITICIANS.

They do so via Secrecy and Scary Stories and ECHELON.

# "Covering Up Crimes", By Anthony Lewis, NYT, 5/5/97
#
# A Government official becomes aware that secret information shows
# corruption and criminality in a Federal agency.
#
# He wants to inform Congress, but he is forbidd


From: JSH on
medicine.

UNCRACKABLE ENCRYPTION WILL ALLOW DRUG LORDS, TERRORISTS, AND EVEN
VIOLENT GANGS TO COMMUNICATE WITH IMPUNITY. OTHER THAN SOME KIND
OF KEY RECOVERY SYSTEM, THERE IS NO TECHNICAL SOLUTION.

* And this false diagnosis is on purpose.
*
* When Louis Freeh told the National Press Club that homicides have almost
* tripled since 1960, his audience had to have been disturbed. Freeh's
* picture of a grim, seemingly inevitable upward surge in what has always
* been considered among the most heinous crimes is indeed a frightening
* prospect.
*
* But once again, like a car salesman trying to make his monthly quota,
* Freeh pushes too hard. First of all, his claim that there are now
* nearly three times more homicides than in 1960 ignored the important
* fact that the nation's population grew substantially during that period.
*
* When this factor is taken into account, the picture still looks bad, but
* not quite as bad as Freeh suggested. While the *numbers* of murders did
* indeed almost triple, the murder *rate* barely doubled:
*
* In 1992, 10.4 murders per 100,000 people
* In 1960, 4.7 murders per 100,000 people
*
* Amazing as it may seem that a leading law enforcement official might