From: Tim Smith on 18 Apr 2008 22:27 Waco. Gun charges. The deaths of all those people were 80% the fault of the government. I say that even though I believe the Koreshians set the fire. You'd go mad too after screaming dying rabbits are blasted into your dreams every night, and in the end were attacked by five hours of toxic tear gas. You would literally be trapped in hell with the devil pointing guns at you. Some of the reasons for 30% of the blame: o The mandatory documentation of the raid plan was never distributed. o The warrant they were to serve was also left behind. "We don't need no stinkin' warrants" o It is well-documented that David Koresh had left the complex many times while under the surveillance of as many as eight A.T.F. agents. o The F.B.I. cut off all utilities and sanitation. Government loudspeakers blared nonstop with such sounds as jet planes, and the cries of rabbits being slaughtered. [I have three loving bunnies who have free roam inside my apartment: the Feds are sick puppies. What would the public have thought if it were dying cats or dogs?] Tanks fired percussion grenades. Stadium lights kept the house illuminated around the clock. Helicopters flew overhead. This does not contribute to trust in the government negotiators, nor does it help the Koreshians make rational decisions. Like walking out unarmed before a Federal army, using tanks from the U.S. Defense Dept. [It should still be called the War Dept.] o C.S. gas is never supposed to be used inside a building. U
From: JSH on 18 Apr 2008 21:33 of cocaine? There is a strange twist to the story. : : The Federal agent's manager repeatedly tried to interfere with him making : the bust. : : The agent's dog had flagged the truck; the agent weighed it and found a : discrepancy. His manager said it must be in the tires. You can only check : the tires for drugs he was told. : : But the agent persisted, and made the bust. His manager let the driver : of the truck leave. The driver literally fled on foot back to Mexico. What the hell was that about??? Was it a single corrupt Federal agent? : CBS 60 Minutes, Steve Croft reporting. : : Standing at a fence about a hundred feet from the U.S. Customs lanes, : Steve Croft and an ex-agent with a walkie-talkie tuned to the right : frequency began videotaping the border crossings. : : Truck after truck drove right through the individual Customs lanes, : not even stopping. "Nafta express lanes" explained the ex-agent. : : Truck after truck drove straight into the U.S. unmonitored. : : Then a message came through the walkie-talkie: "We got some cameras : watching, better get out there and cover traffic". : : Suddenly several Customs agents came out of the booths and started : inspecting trucks. That makes at least five people at a minimum!
From: Risto Lankinen on 18 Apr 2008 23:51 could be attached to a garment until the owner threw it out. # # Heretofor, this application has been considered only for security purposes. # # The definition of "security", according to the textile industry magazine # 'Bobbin', has been expanded to include "anti-counterfeit" tracking after # purchase. [What???] # # Could a machine-readable tag on a person's clothing serve many of the same # tracking purposes an one embedded in the body? ---- Sure, government can give debate reasons for requiring fingerprinting for driver's licenses... But it is still a violation of the minimization requirement of the Privacy Act of 1974. Biometric data on citizens is FAR BEYOND any reason government can give. Notice how no citizens in any state ever got to vote on such an important escalation of personal data collection by the government. Indeed, it seems to be accomplished in the quietest way possible, giving citizens the least amount of opportunity to choose their fate. Odd, since tax-payer paid-for government services is what gives them the power. But elected representatives will do, you say? Did you hear any of them mention it during campaigning? Did Alabama elected officials even mention it with their press release of a new driver's license, despite that being the plan? No. What does that tell you? We need a cabinet-level Privacy Commission, with the power to intervene nationwide. Power to protect us little people from fanatical personal data collection. We are losing it piece by piece. Who would have thought the United States would collect fingerprints from all citizens? Collect biometric information from everyone... law enforcement's Evil Holy Grail. * "U.S. Has Plan to Broaden Availability tests of DNA Testing" * By Fox Butterfield, The New York Times, undated but 1996 implied. * *
From: Christian Siebert on 18 Apr 2008 22:53 's and are to be used only for work > purposes. And that they are subject to inspection. You signed it. > > Salomon's goes further by stating the firm's computer systems may be > audited and that they have the right to do so even if you have put > personal information on the system. > > After the first couple of months of security incidents at Salomon, > they began issuing global email broadcasts saying that a new security > package "Internet Risk Management: email facility" had been installed, > and that Internet email traffic was actively being monitored. > > They did so again and again. > > I think they sent out a memo to everyone too. > > Security incidents NEVER stopped. > > Major violations occurred again and again and again and again... > > I have come to realize that the number of security incidents a firm > has is not related to how often they warn their employees not to send > proprietary/confidential information out via email. > > The number of security incidents is a function of the number of employees. > > If you are a big computer-based firm (banks, brokerage, insurance etc), > then you are guaranteed to have a huge amount of proprietary/confidential > files flowing out of your Internet connection via email. > >
From: Risto Lankinen on 18 Apr 2008 21:31
in handling the inundation of information. * * Two of the senior cyberneticians organized a filtration system. The feedback was not simply machine throughput rates, but also---via the central computer---a system 'through which anyone could consult anyone else'. I used keyword monitoring to filter "information" from "noise" in Salomon's HUGE email traffic. What I did, of course, was small potatoes; what Stafford Beer did was a serious cybernetic attempt to control an entire nation's economy. In order for him to do that, he needed to set up a (cybernetic) monitoring infrastructure. The nation's banks, factories and industrial companies. It would have given Allende maximum control over the nations industrial infrastructure, real-time monitoring of everything. Everything had a computer monitoring it. * "The Future of War - Power, Technology, and American World Dominance in * the 21st Century", by George & Meredith Friedman, 1996, ISBN 0-517-70403-X * * McNamara's revolution built on an idea that was central to operations * research and propounded by many nuclear strategists, that war was not * methodologically distinguishabl |