From: David Farber on 16 Aug 2005 15:53 This is really not a home built PC but I figured this group would have the most all around PC knowledge. The PC is a Gateway, model # MFATXPNTNMZ500SE. The motherboard is an Intel D845GRG. I was called to service this PC which is networked into a very large home. I found out the hard drive had been removed. Also, I really don't have much experience in setting up or troubleshooting networks so maybe this is where I am stuck. Most of my clients use stand alone Windows pc's hooked up to their DSL or cable modems for internet. I turned on the PC and the first screen of course said no hard drive found and prompted me to hit, "ctrl alt b" to configure the boot system so I did. The setup menu had the following choices: PXE, TCP/IP, Netware, RPL. I left it alone since I wasn't sure what that was supposed to do and the following text appeared on the screen and is something I've never seen before: Managed PC Boot Agent (MBA) v4.30 (build 3) Supported NIC: 3com 10/100 Ethernet NIC (v2.32) (c) Copyright 2000 Lanworks Technologies Co. a subsidiary of 3Com Corporation. All rights reserved. versions: Main: v1.21, Loader: v3.05 Bootware: v2.11 AI: v1.02 PXE: v2.30 (base code build 79) Config: v1.30 UNDI: v2.32, Loader: v3.05 Vendor:Device: 10B7:9200 Bootware type: 109 (6Dh) Settings: 00020421 Defaults: 00000000 EEprom: FFFFFFFF Please reboot your system So I reboot and did not hit "ctrl alt b" I got the following text: Intel (R) Boot Agent Version 4.0.22 Copyright (c) 1997-2001, Intel Corporation Intel Base-Code, PXE-2.0 (build 083) Copyright (c) 1997-2001, Intel Corporation PXE-M0F: Exiting Intel PXE ROM Reboot and Select proper Boot device or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot device. I opened the computer and set the cmos jumper to config and then I got a fairly normal looking boot setup menu. Silent Boot: Enabled Intel (R) Rapid Bias Boot: Enabled PXE Boot to LAN: Enabled <-- ??? Don't know what this means. USB Boot: Enabled Other boot settings: 1st boot device: Atapi CD Rom. 2nd boot device: [Removable Dev.] 3rd boot device: [IBA 4.0.22 Slot 014] <-- ??? Don't know what this means. Can somebody give me a general idea of what is going on here other than the hard drive is missing? Is this system supposed to boot off of the network? Could this system actually be used without its own hard drive? Thanks for your reply. -- David Farber David Farber's Service Center L.A., CA
From: Michael Hawes on 16 Aug 2005 18:17 "David Farber" <farberbear.unspam(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:PurMe.5160$CL7.16243804(a)news.sisna.com... > This is really not a home built PC but I figured this group would have the > most all around PC knowledge. The PC is a Gateway, model # MFATXPNTNMZ500SE. > The motherboard is an Intel D845GRG. > > I was called to service this PC which is networked into a very large home. I > found out the hard drive had been removed. Also, I really don't have much > experience in setting up or troubleshooting networks so maybe this is where > I am stuck. Most of my clients use stand alone Windows pc's hooked up to > their DSL or cable modems for internet. > > I turned on the PC and the first screen of course said no hard drive found > and prompted me to hit, "ctrl alt b" to configure the boot system so I did. > The setup menu had the following choices: > > PXE, TCP/IP, Netware, RPL. I left it alone since I wasn't sure what that was > supposed to do and the following text appeared on the screen and is > something I've never seen before: > > Managed PC Boot Agent (MBA) v4.30 (build 3) > Supported NIC: 3com 10/100 Ethernet NIC (v2.32) (c) Copyright 2000 Lanworks > Technologies Co. a subsidiary of 3Com Corporation. All rights reserved. > versions: > > Main: v1.21, Loader: v3.05 > Bootware: v2.11 > AI: v1.02 > PXE: v2.30 (base code build 79) > Config: v1.30 > UNDI: v2.32, Loader: v3.05 > Vendor:Device: 10B7:9200 > Bootware type: 109 (6Dh) > Settings: 00020421 > Defaults: 00000000 > EEprom: FFFFFFFF > > Please reboot your system > > So I reboot and did not hit "ctrl alt b" I got the following text: > > Intel (R) Boot Agent Version 4.0.22 > Copyright (c) 1997-2001, Intel Corporation > Intel Base-Code, PXE-2.0 (build 083) > Copyright (c) 1997-2001, Intel Corporation > PXE-M0F: Exiting Intel PXE ROM > Reboot and Select proper Boot device or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot > device. > > I opened the computer and set the cmos jumper to config and then I got a > fairly normal looking boot setup menu. > > Silent Boot: Enabled > Intel (R) Rapid Bias Boot: Enabled > PXE Boot to LAN: Enabled <-- ??? Don't know what this means. > USB Boot: Enabled > > Other boot settings: > 1st boot device: Atapi CD Rom. > 2nd boot device: [Removable Dev.] > 3rd boot device: [IBA 4.0.22 Slot 014] <-- ??? Don't know what this means. > > Can somebody give me a general idea of what is going on here other than the > hard drive is missing? Is this system supposed to boot off of the network? > Could this system actually be used without its own hard drive? > > Thanks for your reply. > -- > David Farber > David Farber's Service Center > L.A., CA > It is trying to boot from network card ROM which may maynot be present, but requires a suitable network server to allow Boot from Network. The hard drive is NOT being detected, which is the problem you need to fix. Mike.
From: Tweek on 16 Aug 2005 19:05 If you have a bootable cd in the cdrom drive it will boot to the cd. Failing that, since there is no hard drive, no bootable cd or bootable floppy in either drive, it is trying a network boot. It is unlikely that the customer is doing a network boot, it is just a boot setting by default. Normally the hdd (the way I set them up anyway) would be third in the boot order. There is nothing wrong with the machine from a boot standpoint apart from the fact there is not bootable device in it. "David Farber" <farberbear.unspam(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:PurMe.5160$CL7.16243804(a)news.sisna.com... > This is really not a home built PC but I figured this group would have the > most all around PC knowledge. The PC is a Gateway, model # > MFATXPNTNMZ500SE. > The motherboard is an Intel D845GRG. > > I was called to service this PC which is networked into a very large home. > I > found out the hard drive had been removed. Also, I really don't have much > experience in setting up or troubleshooting networks so maybe this is > where > I am stuck. Most of my clients use stand alone Windows pc's hooked up to > their DSL or cable modems for internet. > > I turned on the PC and the first screen of course said no hard drive found > and prompted me to hit, "ctrl alt b" to configure the boot system so I > did. > The setup menu had the following choices: > > PXE, TCP/IP, Netware, RPL. I left it alone since I wasn't sure what that > was > supposed to do and the following text appeared on the screen and is > something I've never seen before: > > Managed PC Boot Agent (MBA) v4.30 (build 3) > Supported NIC: 3com 10/100 Ethernet NIC (v2.32) (c) Copyright 2000 > Lanworks > Technologies Co. a subsidiary of 3Com Corporation. All rights reserved. > versions: > > Main: v1.21, Loader: v3.05 > Bootware: v2.11 > AI: v1.02 > PXE: v2.30 (base code build 79) > Config: v1.30 > UNDI: v2.32, Loader: v3.05 > Vendor:Device: 10B7:9200 > Bootware type: 109 (6Dh) > Settings: 00020421 > Defaults: 00000000 > EEprom: FFFFFFFF > > Please reboot your system > > So I reboot and did not hit "ctrl alt b" I got the following text: > > Intel (R) Boot Agent Version 4.0.22 > Copyright (c) 1997-2001, Intel Corporation > Intel Base-Code, PXE-2.0 (build 083) > Copyright (c) 1997-2001, Intel Corporation > PXE-M0F: Exiting Intel PXE ROM > Reboot and Select proper Boot device or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot > device. > > I opened the computer and set the cmos jumper to config and then I got a > fairly normal looking boot setup menu. > > Silent Boot: Enabled > Intel (R) Rapid Bias Boot: Enabled > PXE Boot to LAN: Enabled <-- ??? Don't know what this means. > USB Boot: Enabled > > Other boot settings: > 1st boot device: Atapi CD Rom. > 2nd boot device: [Removable Dev.] > 3rd boot device: [IBA 4.0.22 Slot 014] <-- ??? Don't know what this means. > > Can somebody give me a general idea of what is going on here other than > the > hard drive is missing? Is this system supposed to boot off of the network? > Could this system actually be used without its own hard drive? > > Thanks for your reply. > -- > David Farber > David Farber's Service Center > L.A., CA > >
From: Bill Porter on 18 Aug 2005 08:27 "David Farber" <farberbear.unspam(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:PurMe.5160$CL7.16243804(a)news.sisna.com... > This is really not a home built PC but I figured this group would have the > most all around PC knowledge. The PC is a Gateway, model # MFATXPNTNMZ500SE. > The motherboard is an Intel D845GRG. If it's a standard 845GRG then the bios is accessed via F2. There is then an option to select boot devices / order etc. What you are seeing is the machine trying to boot off the network. I'm assuming you'll want to boot from a CD or floppy. You may find the options need changing in the bios for this as it may have been set not to boot from either CD or FDD. The (standard) Intel bios is fairly easy to understand once in there via F2. Bill
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