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From: Beverly Howard on 21 Nov 2009 10:10 >> You don't think so? << As you well know, I feel very strongly that the primary reason for winmobile's troubles is grounded in apathy towards wimobile users, their needs and problems. I have both winmobile devices as well as an iTouch and the iTouch can't touch 2003se's usability and functionality not to mention the huge range of valuable apps that are not subject to approval by royal fiat before they can be run on the platform. Add to that the complete lockdown of the file system, zero user storage without going through the associated copy of itunes and no storage card options, and apple ends up with a target if ms were wiser. Beverly Howard
From: RickyP on 21 Nov 2009 18:30 Beverly, Yet somehow Apple are still dominating, perhaps the rival to MS is not the medium by which iphone is delivered (fancy UI and a myriad of downloadable apps or even the handset itself) maybe it's the maketing machine of swanky advertising and the illusion of "cool" that appears tobe more important than functionality and maybe the "one" to watch out for is RIM? Ricky "Beverly Howard" <Bev(a)NoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote in message news:%23cASJzraKHA.5156(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > >> You don't think so? << > > As you well know, I feel very strongly that the primary reason for > winmobile's troubles is grounded in apathy towards wimobile users, their > needs and problems. > > I have both winmobile devices as well as an iTouch and the iTouch can't > touch 2003se's usability and functionality not to mention the huge range > of valuable apps that are not subject to approval by royal fiat before > they can be run on the platform. > > Add to that the complete lockdown of the file system, zero user storage > without going through the associated copy of itunes and no storage card > options, and apple ends up with a target if ms were wiser. > > Beverly Howard >
From: Sven on 21 Nov 2009 19:12 Bingo. This is just what I was thinking reading Bevs post. Agree with all you said Bev, but obviously none of what Apple did, had ever been done before and MS is now just copying. Yea right. We both know there isn't anything the iPhone does we couldn't do for years. The fish, it never cackles 'bout it's million eggs or so, The hen is quite a different bird, one egg-and hear her crow. The fish we spurn, but crown the hen, which leads me to surmise: Don't hide your light, but blow your horn. it pays to advertise. "RickyP" <ricky(a)msn.com> wrote in message news:72C2CBC1-DC54-4908-BC47-A86ADC1909F8(a)microsoft.com... > Beverly, > > Yet somehow Apple are still dominating,
From: "Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen" on 23 Nov 2009 06:17 RIM will never be able to combat iPhone (not even WinMo) when it comes to non-corporate / casual consumers. OK, I'm not a corporate consumer either - but the sole reason I use my BB 8800 for e-mails its vast superiority to the iPhone 3G S and my WinMo phones when it comes to battery life and keyboard when Push is enabled. I only need to recharge it once (!) a week. With the iPhone 3G S with Push enabled? That's a joke - about half a day? (And, unfortunately, WinMo phones are only marginally better in this respect - abou ttwo days with Push hacks applied.) However, there simply isn't anything I can use it for, the two other systems are so much more powerful and better. Most apps (e.g., Web browsers, games, emulators, remote desktop control apps, media players) are just orders of magnitude better than on RIM's devices. Consequently, I don't think RIM could ever dominate the consumer market, which puts much more emphasis on media / gaming than on "plain" mailing. "RickyP" <ricky(a)msn.com> wrote in news:72C2CBC1-DC54-4908-BC47-A86ADC1909F8(a)microsoft.com: > Beverly, > > Yet somehow Apple are still dominating, perhaps the rival to MS is not > the medium by which iphone is delivered (fancy UI and a myriad of > downloadable apps or even the handset itself) maybe it's the maketing > machine of swanky advertising and the illusion of "cool" that appears > tobe more important than functionality and maybe the "one" to watch > out for is RIM? > > Ricky > > > "Beverly Howard" <Bev(a)NoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote in message > news:%23cASJzraKHA.5156(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> >> You don't think so? << >> >> As you well know, I feel very strongly that the primary reason for >> winmobile's troubles is grounded in apathy towards wimobile users, >> their needs and problems. >> >> I have both winmobile devices as well as an iTouch and the iTouch >> can't touch 2003se's usability and functionality not to mention the >> huge range of valuable apps that are not subject to approval by royal >> fiat before they can be run on the platform. >> >> Add to that the complete lockdown of the file system, zero user >> storage without going through the associated copy of itunes and no >> storage card options, and apple ends up with a target if ms were >> wiser. >> >> Beverly Howard >> >
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