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From: richard.townsendrose on 20 Mar 2010 07:54
Mike,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_service
is a good article...

why do they have to wrap what is relatively simple in such horrendous
and with never ending changes in tla's or even etla's

tla:=three letter acronym tho' in my view anagram might be more
suitable
etla:=extended tla [aka a 4la - wrong ! thats only three !]

in the end we come back to an html form with post get and put etc !

which in my view makes php the development language of choice for a
web server

richard
From: Geoff Schaller on 21 Mar 2010 17:23
Rubbish - php is too hard... java is too hard. Productivity in both
domains is too low hence for the commercial developer, read that as too
expensive. For the hobbyist or backyarder, it won't matter.

We just use C# for everything now. Convenient, consistent, one platform,
as fully capable as the other options, reusable as COM or CLR inside sql
server... the positives list just goes on without there being negatives.



"richard.townsendrose" <richard.townsendrose(a)googlemail.com> wrote in
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> Mike,
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_service
> is a good article...
>
> why do they have to wrap what is relatively simple in such horrendous
> and with never ending changes in tla's or even etla's
>
> tla:=three letter acronym tho' in my view anagram might be more
> suitable
> etla:=extended tla [aka a 4la - wrong ! thats only three !]
>
> in the end we come back to an html form with post get and put etc !
>
> which in my view makes php the development language of choice for a
> web server
>
> richard

From: Geoff Schaller on 21 Mar 2010 17:26
Interesting.

Well that just means they haven't progressed at all. They've replaced
one version oriented framework with another.

If they provided YOU with the WS then you're ok. You just consume the
ws, generating code from wsdl's as needed. That makes sense. MS did this
with sharepoint. We can write against the object model API should we
wish to or we can use the ws. But the ws option isolates us from version
shock and it isolates our dev environment from their operational one.

Good luck.

Geoff



"Mike Pitcher" <mike_no_spam_please_(a)pamuk.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On 18 Mar, 22:23, "Geoff Schaller" <geo...(a)softxwareobjectives.com.au>
> wrote:
>
> > Mike,
> >
>
> > > Thanks Geoff. We'll be doing it from ASP.NET (C#) so the VS toolset
> > > will come in handy. Would you write the Web Services for SAP or would
> > > you get a SAP specialist to do it?
> >
>
> > My understanding is that SAP were going to provide them as a way of
> > replacing their current API - or do you believe something else?
> >
> > WS are a far superior way to provide connectivity, except in performance
> > terms (they sometimes can be a tad slower to kick off) but if it were to
> > be you writing the ws then you've gained nothing because the ws needs
> > the API. That is version dependent so you are back at ground zero.
> > Somehting has to use the object model APi at some point. It is either
> > you or the ws.
> >
> > So see if they are going to supply the connectivity via a ws. And if you
> > were to write it, SELL IT TO THEM FOR BIG BUCKS!
> >
> > <g>
> >
> > Geoff
>
>
> Done a bit more research and consulted in the SAP forums ...
>
> Web Services are now the recommended way as far as SAP is concerned.
> The whole of the latest release (ECC 6) is based on a service oriented
> architecture and any extensions are written in Java using their
> NetWeaver Development Studio. Hence any web services would be
> developed using the NetWeaver DS to exploit what is - apparently - a
> well-documented API. It could even be that some of the web services we
> need are already available to support the integration of SAP's own e-
> recruitment package.
>
> Thanks for all interest shown.

From: Apolonio Luis M. on 29 Mar 2010 16:43
hello,

Now I'm migrating all my applications VO (pos, medical, pets, hhrr,
churchs, etc) to php+java+mysql+ajax: it has been difficult but there
are tons of pages with help.

And now I move faster in this environment that VO.

Apolonio Luis Medina
Sonora, Mexico
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