From: PA Bear [MS MVP] on
+1

rob^_^ wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Have a look at 98 Guy's headers. I would not trust someone using Opera to
> build IE patches for an unsupported OS or browser.
>
> You may as well accept those Windows Updates trojans that appear in your
> Inbox (NOT). I think he is wearing black.
>
> Regards.
>
> "98 Guy" <98(a)Guy.com> wrote in message news:4B20FBA5.77D26F6F(a)Guy.com...
>> For those of you that want to use various Win-2K updates from Microsoft
>> and apply them to your Win-98 system, this update package has been
>> designed to bring together all those various updates and install them
>> automatically.
>>
>> MD InternetExplorer 6.0sp1 Component Update 3.0
>>
>> *Windows Script Update 5.6
>> *971961 - Unofficial JScript Security Update
>> *944338 - Unofficial Windows Script Security Update
>> *973354 - Unofficial Outloook Express Cumulative Security Update
>> *976325 - Unofficial Internet Explorer Cumulative Security Update (with
>> uninstall)
>> *905495 - Unofficial Security Update (MSIEFTP)
>> *885258 - Security Update (PROCTEXE)
>> *816362 - Security Update (MSHTA)
>> *958869 - Unofficial Security Update (VGX)
>> *906216 - Unofficial Security Update (DHTML+TRIEDIT)
>> *920670 - Unofficial Security Update (HLINK)
>> *918439 - Security Update (ART Image Rendering)
>> *816093 - JVM 3810 Security Update
>> *961371 - Unofficial Web fonts update
>> *824220 - Unofficial Security Update (IMGUTIL)
>> *886677 - Unofficial Security Update (MLANG)
>> *896156 - Unofficial Security Update (MSHTMLED)
>> *893627 - Hotfix for Bug with Group Policies Not Applied in IE6sp1
>> *973525 - Unofficial ActiveX Kill Bits (AKB) Security Vulnerability Fix
>> *931125 - Windows Roots Update
>>
>> *Unofficial DirectX Media (DXM) 6.0 Update
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>> http://rapidshare.de/files/48815001/MDIE6CU30E.EXE.html
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> *Size: ~14mb
>>
>> What's new:
>>
>> *976325 - Unofficial Internet Explorer Cumulative Security Update (with
>> uninstall)
>> *961371 - Unofficial web fonts update
>>
>> removed:
>>
>> *974455 - Unofficial Internet Explorer Cumulative Security Update
>> *976749 - Unofficial Internet Explorer Update
>> *908519 - Web fonts update
From: 98 Guy on
PA Bear top-poasted:

> +1

Care to tell us what that means?
From: N. Miller on
On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:53:05 -0800, rob^_^ <iecustomizer(a)hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Have a look at 98 Guy's headers. I would not trust someone using Opera
> to build IE patches for an unsupported OS or browser.

How does one use a web browser to build OS, or browser patches?

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konny, with the Lion and the Drum
From: N. Miller on
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 09:12:41 -0500, 98 Guy wrote:

> PA Bear top-poasted:

>> +1

> Care to tell us what that means?

Pretty much the same thing as, "<AOL> 'Me too!"

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
From: J. P. Gilliver (John) on
In message <Ob1BBokeKHA.2460(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, MEB
<MEB-not-here(a)hotmail.com> writes:
>On 12/11/2009 03:16 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
[98Guy's putative enhancements/updates/whatever]
>> Does this set of fixes actually ADD to the vulnerabilities of a system,
>> or just CHANGE it - i. e. could it be that it introduces some new ones
>> but closes some (while also adding other things, such as a DirectX and a
>> web fonts update)?
[]
> Good questions. If it were the OSs designed for it might fulfill the

Thank you.

>desired effect, temporarily. However, there is no "patch Tuesday" or
>"zero day" hotfixes for Win9x and these will contain vulnerabilities IN
>THE OSs designed, for which updates will be received, Win9X won't.
> These are for the interface to the Internet, the browser, waving in the
>breeze...
>
> Just as the last posted suggested junk from 98 Guy was patched in a
>week or so, and is NOT part of a normal Win9X installation {MS XML4}, so
>rather obviously they introduce vulnerabilities that wouldn't be there

They certainly have the potential to do so, though whether they actually
do so hasn't been tested either.

>to start with. NO ONE tests these for 9X vulnerabilities and they DO
>introduce new vulnerabilities into the OSs intended; nor even for
>compatibility beyond they install...

They are more likely to, yes.
>
> On the other hand, if you want to *manual* check every day to see if
>Microsoft has offered any security or file fixes, AND check for whether
>they work in 9X, AND are willing to be a "guinea pig" for any new and
>COMPLETELY UNKNOWN 9X vulnerabilities, then sure, install; just don't
>expect anyone to be able to help fix your system and don't expect your
>software will be compatible... including any malware protection.

Equally, if you don't ever install any of these patches, you will not
suffer from any of the new potential vulnerabilities, but you will also
never experience any of the (equally "potential") benefits, either.
>
> Somewhere along the line since EOL, these people lost track of what
>they hoped to accomplish, keeping 9X alive... that requires someone
>actually test and NOT JUST FOR INSTALLATION, and creation of NEW
>browsers and malware programs...
>
As I've said before, they can choose to preserve in aspic their 98
system as it was at the instant of EOL, or they can choose to take
potential risks for potential benefits. It's their choice. If they
choose the latter, they can be reassured to whatever extent they trust
98g, and worried to whatever extent they believe you.
--
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** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously
outdated thoughts on PCs. **

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