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From: Ray on 26 Jan 2010 02:44
Rob <mesamine(a)gmail.com> wrote in
news:hjld4n$uc8$1(a)news.eternal-september.org:

> z1 wrote:
>
> The dialup speeds come with the shaped monthly plans. Its a BIG step
> down even from 256 to 6 even to downloading email text :)
>
>

Huh, most shape to around 64kbits/s

Yeah 6KB/s is your typical download rate when shaped, but you don't get 256
KB/s at full speed, more like 24 KB/s.

From: Marts on 26 Jan 2010 03:33
Rob wrote...

> I have a choice of ADSL1 or ADSL2 connection

> What reason should one have over the other for it to be better?

Depends on the provider. Firstly, DSL2 has a higher upload speed. Dunno if that
really matters. Second, if the ISP has its own DSLAMs in the exchange then its
DSL2 service may be cheaper than what its DSL1 service is. This is because DSL1
usually comes via Telstra which tends to charge ISPs a premium for reselling its
services.

From: z1 on 26 Jan 2010 03:57
Ray wrote:
> Rob <mesamine(a)gmail.com> wrote in
> news:hjld4n$uc8$1(a)news.eternal-september.org:
>
>> z1 wrote:
>>
>> The dialup speeds come with the shaped monthly plans. Its a BIG step
>> down even from 256 to 6 even to downloading email text :)
>>
>>
>
> Huh, most shape to around 64kbits/s
>
> Yeah 6KB/s is your typical download rate when shaped, but you don't get 256
> KB/s at full speed, more like 24 KB/s.
>

you are not getting confused between bits and bytes?

http://computer.howstuffworks.com/bytes.htm

a 256 connection nominally allows for a 32Kb/sec download.
so my 1500 amounts to a 187 Kb/sec - the best I have seen was around 160
kb/sec
From: Rob on 26 Jan 2010 05:45
z1 wrote:
> Rob wrote:
>> z1 wrote:
>>> Rob wrote:
>>>> I have a choice of ADSL1 or ADSL2 connection
>>>>
>>>> ADSL1 1500
>>>>
>>>> ADSL2 will only run at 2000 in this area.
>>>>
>>>> So each have about the same speed.
>>>>
>>>> So the choice - is there any difference between each?
>>>>
>>>> What reason should one have over the other for it to be better?
>>>
>>> Have you thought about asking your ISP?
>>>
>>> In the meantime let's do some thinking for you.
>>>
>>> If download interests you then the technical limits are 1500/8 and
>>> 2000/8.
>>>
>>> The other difference might be cost. From what I have seen ADSL2 can
>>> be cheaper.
>>>
>>> Looking into the future, ADSL2 can likely become the standard, so go
>>> with the future.
>>>
>>> If it's such an issue for you then maybe a stint on dialup will help
>>> clear your mind :)
>>
>> The dialup speeds come with the shaped monthly plans. Its a BIG step
>> down even from 256 to 6 even to downloading email text :)
>>
>>
>> About the same cost per month with download quota etc.
>>
>> Telstra are now offering 1500 ADSL1 at a reasonable rate. Why??????
>> And not pushing ADSL2.
>>
>>
>> Is ADSL more reliable than ADSL2?
>
> checkout Netspace
> and give www.whirlpool.net.au a look.
> you mean telstra comes at a reasonable price? since when?

check their new plans 1500//$45 12GB DL
From: Rob on 26 Jan 2010 05:47
Rod Speed wrote:
> Rob wrote:
>> z1 wrote:
>>> Rob wrote:
>>>> I have a choice of ADSL1 or ADSL2 connection
>>>>
>>>> ADSL1 1500
>>>>
>>>> ADSL2 will only run at 2000 in this area.
>>>>
>>>> So each have about the same speed.
>>>>
>>>> So the choice - is there any difference between each?
>>>>
>>>> What reason should one have over the other for it to be better?
>>> Have you thought about asking your ISP?
>>>
>>> In the meantime let's do some thinking for you.
>>>
>>> If download interests you then the technical limits are 1500/8 and
>>> 2000/8. The other difference might be cost. From what I have seen ADSL2 can
>>> be cheaper.
>>>
>>> Looking into the future, ADSL2 can likely become the standard, so go
>>> with the future.
>>>
>>> If it's such an issue for you then maybe a stint on dialup will help
>>> clear your mind :)
>> The dialup speeds come with the shaped monthly plans. Its a BIG step
>> down even from 256 to 6 even to downloading email text :)
>>
>>
>> About the same cost per month with download quota etc.
>
>> Telstra are now offering 1500 ADSL1 at a reasonable rate. Why??????
>
> Because they have the hardware in place.
>
>> And not pushing ADSL2.
>
> That is just plain wrong.
>

In a phone conversation the other night was offered 1500 ADSL for $45
12Gb DL then shaped.


>> Is ADSL more reliable than ADSL2?
>
> Nope.


Thats what I wanted to know.
>
>
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