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From: terryc on 11 Jun 2010 21:06 On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 07:20:10 +0800, Clocky wrote: > Rod Speed wrote: >> Usual terminal govt stupidity. Anyone with even half a clue that wants >> to conceal their use of the net would just use the library net service >> or a net cafe. > > Useless if they keep records of usage of their systems, or are made to. And a few have/are getting surveillance cameras.
From: terryc on 11 Jun 2010 21:08 On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 09:59:31 +1000, Doug Jewell wrote: > It'd > probably come with a requirement on ISP's to block domestic VPN traffic > & proxies too. Send spam to spamcop.net, read report, note open proxy, test and use. At least one new one per day.
From: atec7 7 ""atec77" on 11 Jun 2010 22:27 Doug Jewell wrote: > Rod Speed wrote: >> z1 wrote: >>> http://www.news.com.au/technology/internet-companies-could-be-forced-to-track-you/story-e6frfro0-1225878467822 >>> >>> >>> Internet companies could be forced to track you >>> >>> * By staff writers >>> * From: news.com.au >>> * June 11, 2010 1:27PM >>> * 130 comments >>> >>> The Government is reportedly considering tracking what Australians do >>> online. >>> >>> * Government thinking about data logs >>> * Could track what you do on internet >>> * More: Technology news and reviews >>> >>> THE Federal Government is considering forcing internet providers like >>> Telstra and Optus to keep records of what their customers do online. >>> >>> The records could include people's web browsing history and emails and >>> be held for several years, according to technology website ZDNet. >>> >>> At the moment a warrant is needed before an internet service provider >>> can begin logging a user's web browsing history. >>> >>> The Attorney-General's Department said it was considering adopting a >>> data retention scheme similar to one introduced in Europe after the >>> Madrid train bombings. >>> >>> Under that directive, passed by the European Union in 2006, telephone >>> and internet companies are forced to log details of communications for >>> up to two years. >>> >>> Only details about the date and time of each phone call, or each time >>> a user connects to the internet, are collected. The content of each >>> communication is not stored. >>> >>> However industry sources told ZDNet the scheme being considered by the >>> Australian Government would be more far-reaching and could include >>> tracking each website visited by users. >>> >>> Read the full report on ZDNet � >>> http://www.zdnet.com.au/govt-wants-isps-to-record-user-data-339303785.htm >>> >> >> Usual terminal govt stupidity. Anyone with even half a clue that wants >> to conceal >> their use of the net would just use the library net service or a net >> cafe. > I'm sure if govco required logging of access data, they would also > require net-cafe's & libraries to log who used it and when. It'd > probably come with a requirement on ISP's to block domestic VPN traffic > & proxies too. > passing a vpn out through the great wall of Oz is childs play and very very hard to block needing just a few packets to make the link I have in the passed made holes in isp firewalls with impunity and great ease ( aint rocket science)
From: annily on 12 Jun 2010 00:00 z1 wrote: > Doug Jewell wrote: > >> I'm sure if govco required logging of access data, they would also >> require net-cafe's & libraries to log who used it and when. It'd >> probably come with a requirement on ISP's to block domestic VPN >> traffic & proxies too. >> > > so what the filter don't catch, the logging will. > > it will be death to bittorrenting I suppose. Aren't they talking about web browsing and email? What's that got to do with BT? -- Long-time resident of Adelaide, South Australia, which probably influences my opinions.
From: Rod Speed on 12 Jun 2010 03:11
Doug Jewell wrote: > Rod Speed wrote: >> z1 wrote: >>> http://www.news.com.au/technology/internet-companies-could-be-forced-to-track-you/story-e6frfro0-1225878467822 >>> >>> Internet companies could be forced to track you >>> >>> * By staff writers >>> * From: news.com.au >>> * June 11, 2010 1:27PM >>> * 130 comments >>> >>> The Government is reportedly considering tracking what Australians >>> do online. >>> >>> * Government thinking about data logs >>> * Could track what you do on internet >>> * More: Technology news and reviews >>> >>> THE Federal Government is considering forcing internet providers >>> like Telstra and Optus to keep records of what their customers do >>> online. The records could include people's web browsing history and emails >>> and be held for several years, according to technology website >>> ZDNet. At the moment a warrant is needed before an internet service >>> provider can begin logging a user's web browsing history. >>> >>> The Attorney-General's Department said it was considering adopting a >>> data retention scheme similar to one introduced in Europe after the >>> Madrid train bombings. >>> >>> Under that directive, passed by the European Union in 2006, >>> telephone and internet companies are forced to log details of >>> communications for up to two years. >>> >>> Only details about the date and time of each phone call, or each >>> time a user connects to the internet, are collected. The content of >>> each communication is not stored. >>> >>> However industry sources told ZDNet the scheme being considered by >>> the Australian Government would be more far-reaching and could >>> include tracking each website visited by users. >>> >>> Read the full report on ZDNet � >>> http://www.zdnet.com.au/govt-wants-isps-to-record-user-data-339303785.htm >> >> Usual terminal govt stupidity. Anyone with even half a clue that >> wants to conceal their use of the net would just use the library net >> service or a net cafe. > I'm sure if govco required logging of access data, they would also require net-cafe's & libraries to log who used it > and when. Pity about the utter impossibility of enforcing that, let alone how they would ever get access to that information if they were trying to check what a particular individual had accessed. How could they possibly inspect all the records of every net cafe and library in Sydney for example ? > It'd probably come with a requirement on ISP's to block domestic VPN traffic & proxies too. Pure fantasy. Its just another example of utterly mindless hyperventilation that we have seen every time the govt proposes doing something. We saw the same completely mindless claims about requiring a proper id when buying a mobile phone etc and it turns out that anyone with even half a clue can get one anonymously any time they like. It isnt even that hard to get a passport in someone else's name either. |