From: gear box on

We don't know because the matter has not yet been to the courts.

However, IMHO it should NOT be a criminal matter but a civil contractual
issue between the parties and good grounds for blocking future access to
a website for those who abuse it. In this case there should be grounds
for the ticket vendors to nullify the tickets bought by Wiseguy after
breaking the vendor's CAPTCHA system.

From: Donna Ohl on
On Thu, 08 Jul 2010 14:23:27 +0200, gear box wrote:

> We don't know because the matter has not yet been to the courts.

My feeling is if the INTENT was criminal, it's criminal.

The intent was clearly criminal.
From: baynole2 on
On Jul 8, 9:18 am, Donna Ohl <d...(a)Use-Author-Supplied-
Address.invalid> wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Jul 2010 14:23:27 +0200, gear box wrote:
> > We don't know because the matter has not yet been to the courts.
>
> My feeling is if the INTENT was criminal, it's criminal.
>
> The intent was clearly criminal.

A criminal act consists of a mens rea and an actus reus.
From: HeyBub on
Donna Ohl wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Jul 2010 14:23:27 +0200, gear box wrote:
>
>> We don't know because the matter has not yet been to the courts.
>
> My feeling is if the INTENT was criminal, it's criminal.
>
> The intent was clearly criminal.

Intent is necessary, but not sufficient, to establish guilt. There has to be
an actual, you know, CRIME involved.

It is not a crime to violate the terms of a contract.


From: baynole2 on

>
> Intent is necessary, but not sufficient, to establish guilt. There has to be
> an actual, you know, CRIME involved.
>
> It is not a crime to violate the terms of a contract.

Just wait. Big Business runs the U.S. government & things are trending
that way.