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From: gear box on 8 Jul 2010 08:23 We don't know because the matter has not yet been to the courts. However, IMHO it should NOT be a criminal matter but a civil contractual issue between the parties and good grounds for blocking future access to a website for those who abuse it. In this case there should be grounds for the ticket vendors to nullify the tickets bought by Wiseguy after breaking the vendor's CAPTCHA system.
From: Donna Ohl on 8 Jul 2010 09:18 On Thu, 08 Jul 2010 14:23:27 +0200, gear box wrote: > We don't know because the matter has not yet been to the courts. My feeling is if the INTENT was criminal, it's criminal. The intent was clearly criminal.
From: baynole2 on 8 Jul 2010 12:00 On Jul 8, 9:18 am, Donna Ohl <d...(a)Use-Author-Supplied- Address.invalid> wrote: > On Thu, 08 Jul 2010 14:23:27 +0200, gear box wrote: > > We don't know because the matter has not yet been to the courts. > > My feeling is if the INTENT was criminal, it's criminal. > > The intent was clearly criminal. A criminal act consists of a mens rea and an actus reus.
From: HeyBub on 8 Jul 2010 12:09 Donna Ohl wrote: > On Thu, 08 Jul 2010 14:23:27 +0200, gear box wrote: > >> We don't know because the matter has not yet been to the courts. > > My feeling is if the INTENT was criminal, it's criminal. > > The intent was clearly criminal. Intent is necessary, but not sufficient, to establish guilt. There has to be an actual, you know, CRIME involved. It is not a crime to violate the terms of a contract.
From: baynole2 on 8 Jul 2010 15:06
> > Intent is necessary, but not sufficient, to establish guilt. There has to be > an actual, you know, CRIME involved. > > It is not a crime to violate the terms of a contract. Just wait. Big Business runs the U.S. government & things are trending that way. |