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From: bolega on 14 Jun 2010 13:10
Quoting the following post :-

I am looking for expert opinions

http://groups.google.com/group/gnu.emacs.help/browse_thread/thread/54fb97d15b234d31#

> Probably doesn't meet your intent, but this is a really impressive bit
> of (whacky) art:

Lisp runs faster than C. Once you get more time away from screwing
Palestinians, and other false-flags, you will find ideas like these

How to make Lisp go faster than C
Didier Verna
Abstract
Contrary to popular belief, Lisp code can be very ef-
cient today: it can run as fast as equivalent C code
or even faster in some cases. In this paper, we explain
how to tune Lisp code for performance by introducing
the proper type declarations, using the appropriate
data structures and compiler information. We also
explain how e ciency is achieved by the compilers.
These techniques are applied to simple image process-
ing algorithms in order to demonstrate the announced
performance on pixel access and arithmetic operations
in both languages.

=======
Standard Disclaimer, nothing personal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX18zUp6WPY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQapkVCx1HI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXJ-k-iOg0M

Hey Racist and INcompetent FBI Bustards, where is the ANTHRAX Mailer ?
Where are the 4 blackboxes ? Where are the Pentagon Videos ? Why did
you release the 5 dancing Israelis compromising the whole 911
investigation ? If the Dubai Police can catch Mossad Murderers and put
the videos and Iranian Police can why cant you put the Pentagon
Videos ? If Iran police can put the AMERICAN TERRORIST, Riggi and
puting on INTERNATIONAL MEDIA a day after catching him without
TORTURE, why cant you put the INNOCENT patsies on the MEDIA. Why did
you have to LIE about Dr Afiya Siddiqui and torture that Innocent
little mother of 3 and smashing the skull of her one child ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhMcii8smxk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SZ2lxDJmdg

There are CRIMINAL cases against CIA CRIMINAL Bustards in Italian
courts.

FBI bustards paid a penalty of $5.8 million to Steven Hatfill, but
only because he was a white. They got away with MURDER of thousands of
Non-whites in all parts of the world.

Daily 911 news : http://911blogger.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRfhUezbKLw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7kGZ3XPEm4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX18zUp6WPY


From: bolega on 14 Jun 2010 13:17
Sorry, I dont have access to the journal papers ... or I would do
research myself.

On Jun 14, 10:10 am, bolega <gnuist...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Quoting the following post :-
>
> I am looking for expert opinions
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/gnu.emacs.help/browse_thread/thread/54...
>
> > Probably doesn't meet your intent, but this is a really impressive bit
> > of (whacky) art:
>
> Lisp runs faster than C. Once you get more time away from screwing
> Palestinians, and other false-flags, you will find ideas like these
>
> How to make Lisp go faster than C
> Didier Verna
> Abstract
> Contrary to popular belief, Lisp code can be very ef-
>  cient today: it can run as fast as equivalent C code
> or even faster in some cases. In this paper, we explain
> how to tune Lisp code for performance by introducing
> the proper type declarations, using the appropriate
> data structures and compiler information. We also
> explain how e ciency is achieved by the compilers.
> These techniques are applied to simple image process-
> ing algorithms in order to demonstrate the announced
> performance on pixel access and arithmetic operations
> in both languages.
>
> =======
> Standard Disclaimer, nothing personal
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX18zUp6WPY
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQapkVCx1HI
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXJ-k-iOg0M
>
> Hey Racist and INcompetent FBI Bustards, where is the ANTHRAX Mailer ?
> Where are the 4 blackboxes ? Where are the Pentagon Videos ? Why did
> you release the 5 dancing Israelis compromising the whole 911
> investigation ? If the Dubai Police can catch Mossad Murderers and put
> the videos and Iranian Police can why cant you put the Pentagon
> Videos ? If Iran police can put the AMERICAN TERRORIST, Riggi and
> puting on INTERNATIONAL MEDIA a day after catching him without
> TORTURE, why cant you put the INNOCENT patsies on the MEDIA. Why did
> you have to LIE about Dr Afiya Siddiqui and torture that Innocent
> little mother of 3 and smashing the skull of her one child ?
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhMcii8smxkhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SZ2lxDJmdg
>
> There are CRIMINAL cases against CIA CRIMINAL Bustards in Italian
> courts.
>
> FBI bustards paid a penalty of $5.8 million to Steven Hatfill, but
> only because he was a white. They got away with MURDER of thousands of
> Non-whites in all parts of the world.
>
> Daily 911 news :http://911blogger.com
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRfhUezbKLw
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7kGZ3XPEm4
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX18zUp6WPY

From: fortunatus on 14 Jun 2010 13:53
For crying out loud, the best any compiler can do is make optimal
machine language. Many C compilers can do that over most inputs. So
can many Lisp compilers if you give the right type data. So it's a
moot point.

The only point to discuss would be that Scheme - in the R5 version of
the spec at least - doesn't have standard way to specify type data
unless I am mistaken. Therefore you will find that Scheme compilers
add their own syntax for it. Again we are led to a moot point.
From: fortunatus on 14 Jun 2010 14:02
One point that might be interesting, you do include C++ in your post.
Therefore some compare/contrast of C++ class member function
invocation rate versus Lisp object method invocation rate might be
meaningful. I'm sure if you Google back through comp.lang.lisp you
will find plenty on it already.
From: Raymond Toy on 14 Jun 2010 15:34
On 6/14/10 1:53 PM, fortunatus wrote:
> For crying out loud, the best any compiler can do is make optimal
> machine language. Many C compilers can do that over most inputs. So

Is that why I had to use assembly code instead of C for some parts of my
previous projects?

There was even one example where the C compiler made spectacularly bad
code. I only needed 6 pointer registers (the arch has 8), but the
compiler decided to use only one or two and spilled and reloaded them
from the stack for each use. Yay!

Ray
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