From: Liater on 16 Feb 2010 10:10 v
From: xxein on 16 Feb 2010 18:46 On Feb 16, 11:50 am, John Duffield <johnduffi...(a)btconnect.com> wrote: > Yes, there is a force of gravity. But it isn't the same kind of force > as when you push an object to make it move. In the latter situation > you are transferring energy to the object. Gravity doesn't do this. > Instead it converts potential energy into kinetic energy, and is > sometimes called an "internal force" as opposed to an "external > force". It's also sometimes called a "pseudoforce", but definitions > can be ambiguous and the subject of debate. xxein: Now, what kind of 'force' does the seeking of an equilibrium induce?
From: valls on 17 Feb 2010 06:43 On 16 feb, 11:50, John Duffield <johnduffi...(a)btconnect.com> wrote: > Yes, there is a force of gravity. But it isn't the same kind of force > as when you push an object to make it move. In the latter situation > you are transferring energy to the object. Gravity doesn't do this. > Instead it converts potential energy into kinetic energy, and is > sometimes called an "internal force" as opposed to an "external > force". It's also sometimes called a "pseudoforce", but definitions > can be ambiguous and the subject of debate. And what about the electric force between two charged entities? It is also a "pseudoforce"? RVHG (Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato)
From: John Duffield on 16 Mar 2010 11:08 xxein: Now, what kind of 'force' does the seeking of an equilibrium induce? The transfer of energy from one part of a system to another. For example the kinetic energy of a mass is transferred into the potential energy in a spring, which then pushes back. There are no springs in gravity. Throw an object upwards, and the energy you gave it doesn't leave that object.
From: John Duffield on 16 Mar 2010 11:14 > RVHG: And what about the electric force between two charged entities? It is also a "pseudoforce" I wouldn't call it that myself. But if you've got a system consisting of an electron and a positron accelerating towards one another, conservation of energy tells you they can't give each other more energy.
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