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From: Mike Williams on 24 Jan 2010 01:39 "mayayana" <mayaXXyana(a)rcXXn.com> wrote in message news:%23s68fYHnKHA.5312(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > I suppose that if the Tibetans had welcomed the > British then the Chinese wouldn't have invaded, there > would have been no genocide, and Tibetans could > live happily ever after serving tea to tourists, working > as Dell helpdesk technicians, and killing the boredom > by playing GTA4. :) .. . . or by reading a gripping novel. Mike
From: MM on 24 Jan 2010 04:36 On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 06:38:16 -0000, "Mike Williams" <Mike(a)WhiskyAndCoke.com> wrote: >I don't feel any disdain for the various people who have not in the past >welcomed the British Empire. In fact I don't hold with countries building >their little empires at the expense of the rest of the world. I think it was >wrong of us to build our so called British Empire in the first place and I'm >happy that we have already given most of it back (or in many cases had it >taken away) But many of us have still not accepted the demise of Empire, not least the British Establishment. It's why we are in the Middle East. We still believe the world stops to listen when the British say something, whereas in reality it largely couldn't care less. MM
From: Mike Williams on 24 Jan 2010 06:32 "MM" <kylix_is(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:g25ol593i5k7gi2opj882s7i0qjua3h83i(a)4ax.com... > But many of us have still not accepted the demise of > Empire, not least the British Establishment. It's why we > are in the Middle East. We still believe the world stops > to listen when the British say something, whereas in > reality it largely couldn't care less. We are in the Middle East because America is in the Middle east, and America is in the Middle East because there's oil in the Middle East and because the Middle east it is poorly defended. It's all about greed. Mike
From: mayayana on 24 Jan 2010 11:16 Woops. The mysterious newsgroup filter is dropping posts again. I had to use the double-spacing method to get through. ------------------------ > I n f a c t I w a s a t u a l l y c o m m e n t i n g o n y o u r s u g g e s t i o n t h a t t h e D a l a i L a m a f e e l s h e h a s h a s n o n e e d f o r a b r e a k f r o m t h e r i g o u r s o f d a i l y l i f e a n d I w a s p o i n t i n g o u t t h a t h e c e r t a i n l y s h o u l d n o t h a v e s u c h a n e e d s i n c e i t w a s h e w h o r a n a w a y f r o m t h e C h i n e s e i n t o a p e r s o n a l l i f e o f s a f e t y a n d l u x u r y , l e a v i n g h i s p o o r a n d i m p o v e r i s h e d p e o p l e t o t h e i r f a t e . > T h a t ' s a n u n u s u a l t a k e o n t h e D a l a i L a m a t h a t I ' v e n e v e r h e a r d b e f o r e , b u t p r o b a b l y n o t t o o f a r f r o m w h a t t h e C h i n e s e g o v t . w o u l d l i k e p e o p l e t o b e l i e v e . ( H e e s c a p e d a t a b o u t t h e a g e o f 2 0 f r o m t h e p r o b a b l e f a t e o f b e i n g a p u p p e t k i n g u n d e r h o u s e a r r e s t .. I d o n ' t k n o w e n o u g h a b o u t t h e f a c t s t o h o l d m u c h o f a v i e w a b o u t w h e t h e r t h a t w a s t h e b e s t c o u r s e o f a c t i o n . A n d I d o n ' t k n o w f o r s u r e w h e t h e r h e w o r k s a l l d a y i n t h e s e r v i c e o f h i s p e o p l e o r w h e t h e r h e r e a l l y j u s t l o u n g e s b y t h e p o o l , l i s t e n i n g t o J i m m y B u f f e t . : ) I n a n y c a s e , m y o r i g i n a l c o m m e n t w a s n ' t a b o u t t h e D a l a i L a m a ' s p o l i t i c s . I w a s a d d r e s s i n g t h e d i s c u s s i o n o f " f u n " . T h e D a l a i L a m a ' s r e m a r k w a s s h e d d i n g l i g h t o n t h e n a t u r e o f e n t e r t a i n m e n t .... t h a t i t ' s a t l e a s t w o r t h w h i l e t o r e f l e c t o n w h y w e s o o f t e n f e e l a n e e d t o r e j e c t o u r a c t u a l e x p e r i e n c e i n f a v o r o f e n t e r t a i n m e n t . I n o t h e r w o r d s , h e w a s s a y i n g , " W h a t d o e s o n e t a k e a b r e a k f r o m ? R e a l i t y ? O n e ' s o w n e x p e r i e n c e ? " I n t h e f i n a l a n a l y s i s , w h a t w e t a k e a b r e a k f r o m i s o u r o w n e x p e r i e n c e , n o w . Which is a l l t h e r e i s . S u c h a " b r e a k " i s r e a l l y t h e d e f i n i t i o n o f p s y c h o s i s . Y e t w e r e f e r t o i t a s " f u n " w i t h o u t e v e r g i v i n g t h a t v e r y m u c h t h o u g h t . ( T h u s , f o o d f o r t h o u g h t . ) I ' m u s i n g " e n t e r t a i n m e n t " h e r e i n a b r o a d s e n s e - - s o m e t h i n g l i k e a b a b y ' s p a c i f i e r . W h a t e v e r s e l f - c o n f i r m i n g t h i n g w e " t r e a t " o u r s e l v e s w i t h w h e n w e f e e l t h a t w e d e s e r v e a t r e a t / v a c a t i o n : G T A 4 , a n o v e l , a w a l k o n t h e b e a c h . . . I t c o u l d b e a s b i g a s p u r s u i n g a C E O - s h i p o r a s s m a l l a s e a t i n g a c o o k i e .
From: Mike Williams on 24 Jan 2010 16:25
"mayayana" <mayaXXyana(a)rcXXn.com> wrote in message news:ObMPUBRnKHA.5508(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > I w a s a d d r e s s i n g t h e d i s c u s s i o n o f > " f u n " . T h e D a l a i L a m a ' s r e m a r k w a s > s h e d d i n g l i g h t o n t h e n a t u r e o f > e n t e r t a i n m e n t .... t h a t i t ' s a t l e a s t > w o r t h w h i l e t o r e f l e c t o n w h y w e s o > o f t e n f e e l a n e e d t o r e j e c t o u r a c t u a l > e x p e r i e n c e i n f a v o r o f e n t e r t a i n m e n t . You mean like MM does when he reads his "gripping novels". If you think things like that are not desirable then why don't you address your comments to MM? > I n o t h e r w o r d s , h e w a s s a y i n g , > " W h a t d o e s o n e t a k e a b r e a k f r o m ? > R e a l i t y ? O n e ' s o w n e x p e r i e n c e ? " > I n t h e f i n a l a n a l y s i s , w h a t w e t a k e > a b r e a k f r o m i s o u r o w n e x p e r i e n c e , > n o w . Which is a l l t h e r e i s . S u c h a > " b r e a k " i s r e a l l y t h e d e f i n i t i o n o f > p s y c h o s i s . Y e t w e r e f e r t o i t a s " f u n " I don't think the Dalai Lama interpreted it as psychosis on his part when he took a break from the realities of living in Tibet and when he ran away and left his poor impoverished people, of whom he was supposed to be the spiritual leader and head of state, to their fate at the hands of the thoroughly nasty Chinese. He simply ran away to take a break in another country, where he lived and where he continues to live a life of luxury for more than fifty years whilst the poor impoverished Tibetan people he abandoned and of whom he still continues to regard himself as the spiritual leader suffer the fate imposed on them by their new and nasty Chinese masters :-) The Dalai Lama certainly seemed to think that he needed a break then! Mike |