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From: JosephKK on 29 Jan 2010 23:04 On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 20:40:08 +0000, John Devereux <john(a)devereux.me.uk> wrote: >Robert Latest <boblatest(a)yahoo.com> writes: > >> Tim Watts wrote: >>> But, you're right - there is absolutely nothing that comes anywhere near >>> Access that I know off - and I tried a few commercial programs on a >>> trial basis too. >> >> I've never got my head around Access. I don't know how to make it get >> things out of a database that I need. I prefer good ol' plain SQL. > >You use access queries which are - pretty much - SQL. You can even >switch them to "SQL view" during their design if you prefer. Sure, for a rather broken implementation.
From: JosephKK on 29 Jan 2010 23:31 On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 20:43:54 +0000, Baron <baron.nospam(a)linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote: >AndyS Inscribed thus: > >> Andy asks: >> >> I am considering switching from WINDOWS to UBUNTU, which is a >> Linnux >> based operating system. >> >> Has anyone here had any experience with it or have any pointers >> that >> I should be aware of ?? >> >> Thanks, >> >> AndyS W4OAH > >Ubuntu makes easy things hard. Try others before making a firm choice. >Open SuSE <www.opensuse.org/en> >Live CD's and full install DVD. >Though my personal preference is version 11.0 with KDE3.5 desktop. My poised to be next production machine is OpenSuse 11.1 with KDE 3.5 DE. KDE 4 is still not ready for prime time and is way too eye heroin (candy) oriented.
From: Archimedes' Lever on 30 Jan 2010 00:04
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 20:00:02 -0800, "JosephKK"<quiettechblue(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 20:47:53 +0000, Baron <baron.nospam(a)linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote: > >>Tim Watts Inscribed thus: >> >>> On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 17:58:06 +0000, John Devereux >>> <john(a)devereux.me.uk> wrote: >>> >>>> The main deficiency I found was the database front-end which seems >>>> very limited compared to Access. For most users everything else is >>>> equivalent or superior to MS Office. You can of course run almost any >>>> program in VirtualBox as pointed out elsewhere, it really works very >>>> well - it seems faster than native in most cases due to lack of virus >>>> scanner I expect. >>> >>> Agreed. (Worth reiterating that's a lack of open source in general >>> problem rather than specifically an Ubuntu issue). >>> >>> Rekall was showing a little fledgling promise for a while but it died. >>> knoda is OK for quick and dirty table data entry and IIRC can manage >>> basic forms. >>> >>> But, you're right - there is absolutely nothing that comes anywhere >>> near >>> Access that I know off - and I tried a few commercial programs on a >>> trial basis too. >>> >>> Access is the one truly decent bit of software I think MS came out >>> with. Probably because it is an incredibly hard bit of software to >>> write well - not something I think would be easy for a couple of bods >>> to knock up in the evenings. It's very GUI heavy on the user >>> interaction side. >> >>Access was derived from Ashton Tate's DB3 and FoxPro. >> >>> Writing something that didn't have much gui support for design (say >>> required doing the design in a declaritive language of some sort) but >>> churned out nice guis for the users (and even better, could generate >>> and run those same guis in a scripted web environment) would be an >>> easier starting point. Once you have that, it becomes easier to then >>> attack the design-as-a-gui end. >>> >>> If you don't have decent event scripting on every widget, and proper >>> subform support it's a non starter... >>> >>> >No way. Accessucks came out before M$ bought Ashton-Tate's dregs or FoxBase. Bullshit. And even if the trademark/brand name did, the engine is now exactly as described. A derivative of FoxPro, and FoxPro's root are well known already. Case closed. |