From: JosephKK on
On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 20:40:08 +0000, John Devereux <john(a)devereux.me.uk> wrote:

>Robert Latest <boblatest(a)yahoo.com> writes:
>
>> Tim Watts wrote:
>>> But, you're right - there is absolutely nothing that comes anywhere near
>>> Access that I know off - and I tried a few commercial programs on a
>>> trial basis too.
>>
>> I've never got my head around Access. I don't know how to make it get
>> things out of a database that I need. I prefer good ol' plain SQL.
>
>You use access queries which are - pretty much - SQL. You can even
>switch them to "SQL view" during their design if you prefer.

Sure, for a rather broken implementation.
From: JosephKK on
On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 20:43:54 +0000, Baron <baron.nospam(a)linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote:

>AndyS Inscribed thus:
>
>> Andy asks:
>>
>> I am considering switching from WINDOWS to UBUNTU, which is a
>> Linnux
>> based operating system.
>>
>> Has anyone here had any experience with it or have any pointers
>> that
>> I should be aware of ??
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> AndyS W4OAH
>
>Ubuntu makes easy things hard. Try others before making a firm choice.
>Open SuSE <www.opensuse.org/en>
>Live CD's and full install DVD.
>Though my personal preference is version 11.0 with KDE3.5 desktop.

My poised to be next production machine is OpenSuse 11.1 with KDE 3.5 DE.
KDE 4 is still not ready for prime time and is way too eye heroin (candy)
oriented.
From: Archimedes' Lever on
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 20:00:02 -0800, "JosephKK"<quiettechblue(a)yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 20:47:53 +0000, Baron <baron.nospam(a)linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote:
>
>>Tim Watts Inscribed thus:
>>
>>> On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 17:58:06 +0000, John Devereux
>>> <john(a)devereux.me.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The main deficiency I found was the database front-end which seems
>>>> very limited compared to Access. For most users everything else is
>>>> equivalent or superior to MS Office. You can of course run almost any
>>>> program in VirtualBox as pointed out elsewhere, it really works very
>>>> well - it seems faster than native in most cases due to lack of virus
>>>> scanner I expect.
>>>
>>> Agreed. (Worth reiterating that's a lack of open source in general
>>> problem rather than specifically an Ubuntu issue).
>>>
>>> Rekall was showing a little fledgling promise for a while but it died.
>>> knoda is OK for quick and dirty table data entry and IIRC can manage
>>> basic forms.
>>>
>>> But, you're right - there is absolutely nothing that comes anywhere
>>> near
>>> Access that I know off - and I tried a few commercial programs on a
>>> trial basis too.
>>>
>>> Access is the one truly decent bit of software I think MS came out
>>> with. Probably because it is an incredibly hard bit of software to
>>> write well - not something I think would be easy for a couple of bods
>>> to knock up in the evenings. It's very GUI heavy on the user
>>> interaction side.
>>
>>Access was derived from Ashton Tate's DB3 and FoxPro.
>>
>>> Writing something that didn't have much gui support for design (say
>>> required doing the design in a declaritive language of some sort) but
>>> churned out nice guis for the users (and even better, could generate
>>> and run those same guis in a scripted web environment) would be an
>>> easier starting point. Once you have that, it becomes easier to then
>>> attack the design-as-a-gui end.
>>>
>>> If you don't have decent event scripting on every widget, and proper
>>> subform support it's a non starter...
>>>
>>>
>No way. Accessucks came out before M$ bought Ashton-Tate's dregs or FoxBase.


Bullshit.

And even if the trademark/brand name did, the engine is now exactly as
described. A derivative of FoxPro, and FoxPro's root are well known
already. Case closed.