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From: Hammy on 28 Jan 2010 09:36
On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 09:15:27 -0500, "John Gilmer"
<jlgilmer(a)localnet.com> wrote:


>
>Were I not so lazy I would run experiments in which I would, for example,
>switch "id chips" between a black cartridge and a color cartridge. Or
>re-install the driver software to see whether the memory of the old
>cartridges has been extinguished.
>
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You can reset the memory on some cartridges.

http://www.misterinkjet.com/hpreset.htm

You tube video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVR2dHebmTI

Google reset memory for your model and you can probably find specific
instructions.
From: osr on 28 Jan 2010 09:38
I note that HP drivers here switch to "color" very often when printing
B&W documents, I manually check before each print run now. PITA.
I did have some HP carts reloaded for my mom's home printer-copier,
which she uses to keep her medical bills straight (at age 82, she's
not into the net)
It runs, but shows the ink as low constantly. Popping open one cart
revealed that its definition of low is NOT my definition of low.

Sounds like we need a "truth in printing" rule from the CPSC, instead
of them going after things like fireworks and lawnmowers.

Steve
From: DaveC on 28 Jan 2010 11:29
> I read somewhere that inkjet printers have a storage compartment for
> excess ink lost during printing and head cleaning and if that becomes
> full then the printer won't function. Never tore one apart to see if
> this was true.

I can see this reservoir. It has one side covered by a translucent plastic
film. It's nearly empty.

And the "full" indication is calculated from the number of cycles it goes
through, not a sensor (there's no sensor on the reservoir). This is one of
the counters you can see in the service menu of the firmware (as well as
total pages printed).

Can anyone help me identify the part in the photographs and their function?

Thanks,

From: Gnack Nol on 28 Jan 2010 14:26
On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 09:15:27 -0500, John Gilmer wrote:

trimmed:

> I just printed out a test page in which the cartriges 20 digit serial
> number is printed.
>
> The software also knows have many cartiidges of each type it has used
> and the number of drops of ink (of each color) for this set of ink
> cartridges AND for the print heads.
>
> Part of that "bloatware" seems to be to get you to spring for a new
> cartridge when the software "decides" it should be low on ink rather
> than waiting for the user to decide. That seems to be a wave of the
> future. (Lexmart cartridges for newer printers also seem to be "smart."

Trimmed:

> Were I not so lazy I would run experiments in which I would, for
> example, switch "id chips" between a black cartridge and a color
> cartridge. Or re-install the driver software to see whether the memory
> of the old cartridges has been extinguished.


This is from the wonderful world of Epson it is so well known that you can
buy cartridge reset devices to reset the counter chips imbedded in their
cartidges. It looks like the new generation of these chips are using
serial numbers to keep you from being able to reset the chip.

An even dirtier anti consumer activity by Epson than they have done
prevously.

It sounds like the "Kodak" printer is actually an Epson in disguise since
thier sales are going away because of this.

It's a good reason to always aviod anything from Epson and spread the word
about them to kill all of their business as they deserve for this very
dirty anti consumer trick.

Forcing the throw away of up to half full cartridges is a real crime
aganst the customer!

Gnack
From: Jan Panteltje on 28 Jan 2010 15:11
On a sunny day (Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:26:53 -0600) it happened Gnack Nol
<mchozfcesujcfc(a)mailinator.com> wrote in
<pan.2010.01.28.19.26.51.196724(a)mailinator.com>:

>On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 09:15:27 -0500, John Gilmer wrote:
>
>trimmed:
>
>> I just printed out a test page in which the cartriges 20 digit serial
>> number is printed.
>>
>> The software also knows have many cartiidges of each type it has used
>> and the number of drops of ink (of each color) for this set of ink
>> cartridges AND for the print heads.
>>
>> Part of that "bloatware" seems to be to get you to spring for a new
>> cartridge when the software "decides" it should be low on ink rather
>> than waiting for the user to decide. That seems to be a wave of the
>> future. (Lexmart cartridges for newer printers also seem to be "smart."
>
>Trimmed:
>
>> Were I not so lazy I would run experiments in which I would, for
>> example, switch "id chips" between a black cartridge and a color
>> cartridge. Or re-install the driver software to see whether the memory
>> of the old cartridges has been extinguished.
>
>
>This is from the wonderful world of Epson it is so well known that you can
>buy cartridge reset devices to reset the counter chips imbedded in their
>cartidges. It looks like the new generation of these chips are using
>serial numbers to keep you from being able to reset the chip.
>
>An even dirtier anti consumer activity by Epson than they have done
>prevously.
>
>It sounds like the "Kodak" printer is actually an Epson in disguise since
>thier sales are going away because of this.
>
>It's a good reason to always aviod anything from Epson and spread the word
>about them to kill all of their business as they deserve for this very
>dirty anti consumer trick.
>
>Forcing the throw away of up to half full cartridges is a real crime
>aganst the customer!
>
>Gnack

Bull, my Epson works great with
https://www.continuousink.com/home.html
the cartridges that come with it always report full :-)



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