From: NameHere on 26 Jun 2010 14:06 On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 16:02:53 +0100, Bruce <docnews2011(a)gmail.com> wrote: >On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 09:59:47 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rander3127(a)gmail.com> >wrote: >>On Jun 24, 7:50�pm, Bruce <docnews2...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:53:20 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rander3...(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >On Jun 24, 3:06�pm, Bruce <docnews2...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 10:04:23 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rander3...(a)gmail.com> >>> >> wrote: >>> >>> >> >... 14-150mm zoom. �They all suck. >>> >>> >> You have presented no evidence that the 14-150mm zoom sucks. >>> >>> >Aside from the mediocre review you mean? >>> >>> It was a mediocre piece of writing, that's for sure. �But it told us >>> very little about the lens - much less than you claim. >>> >> >>Hardly. The resolution figures are awful as are the CA figures. > > >What on earth do you expect from a 10.7X zoom? The optical >performance is on a par with the much more expensive Panasonic lens of >the same focal length range. The Olympus is therefore quite a >bargain. > >Anyone expecting optical excellence will inevitably be disappointed by >any 10X zoom. The Olympus and Panasonic 14-150mm lenses are the >direct equivalent of the 28-300mm consumer grade zooms for 35mm SLRs, >or 18-200mm consumer grade zooms for APS-C (DX) DSLRs. Some are >better than others, but there just aren't any *good* ones. The laws >of physics don't allow a cheap 10X zoom lens to perform well. Well that's an odd thing to claim as some kind of factoid. Why then does this inexpensive 20x f/2.8 P&S zoom lens easily beat the pants off a 3x DSLR zoom lens? (The same lens now available on several Canon Powershot models.) <http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Canon_PowerShot_SX10_IS/outdoor_results.shtml> I guess there must be a design-slump in the 10X range. Yeah, that must be it.
From: John Navas on 28 Jun 2010 02:31 On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 16:02:53 +0100, in <255c26luvgro6uv5sgddfb7sh2cr84gh3h(a)4ax.com>, Bruce <docnews2011(a)gmail.com> wrote: >On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 09:59:47 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rander3127(a)gmail.com> >wrote: >>Hardly. The resolution figures are awful as are the CA figures. > >What on earth do you expect from a 10.7X zoom? The optical >performance is on a par with the much more expensive Panasonic lens of >the same focal length range. The Olympus is therefore quite a >bargain. > >Anyone expecting optical excellence will inevitably be disappointed by >any 10X zoom. ... Leica-branded Panasonic super-zoom lenses are excellent at that zoom range and more, on par with dSLR primes in terms of resolution. -- Best regards, John Buying a dSLR doesn't make you a photographer, it makes you a dSLR owner. "The single most important component of a camera is the twelve inches behind it." -Ansel Adams
From: whisky-dave on 28 Jun 2010 08:36 "John Navas" <jncl1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote in message news:iagg26lnpc17gklh4ptdjthfoqf280oo1h(a)4ax.com... > On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 16:02:53 +0100, in > <255c26luvgro6uv5sgddfb7sh2cr84gh3h(a)4ax.com>, Bruce > <docnews2011(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 09:59:47 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rander3127(a)gmail.com> >>wrote: > >>>Hardly. The resolution figures are awful as are the CA figures. >> >>What on earth do you expect from a 10.7X zoom? The optical >>performance is on a par with the much more expensive Panasonic lens of >>the same focal length range. The Olympus is therefore quite a >>bargain. >> >>Anyone expecting optical excellence will inevitably be disappointed by >>any 10X zoom. ... > > Leica-branded Panasonic super-zoom lenses are excellent at that zoom > range and more, on par with dSLR primes in terms of resolution. What the price differnce. I wonder what zoom range the hubble space teliscope has ;-P
From: Rich on 28 Jun 2010 20:04
Bruce <docnews2011(a)gmail.com> wrote in news:255c26luvgro6uv5sgddfb7sh2cr84gh3h(a)4ax.com: > On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 09:59:47 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rander3127(a)gmail.com> > wrote: >>On Jun 24, 7:50�pm, Bruce <docnews2...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:53:20 -0700 (PDT), RichA >>> <rander3...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >On Jun 24, 3:06�pm, Bruce <docnews2...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 10:04:23 -0700 (PDT), RichA >>> >> <rander3...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >> >... 14-150mm zoom. �They all suck. >>> >>> >> You have presented no evidence that the 14-150mm zoom sucks. >>> >>> >Aside from the mediocre review you mean? >>> >>> It was a mediocre piece of writing, that's for sure. �But it told us >>> very little about the lens - much less than you claim. >>> >> >>Hardly. The resolution figures are awful as are the CA figures. > > > What on earth do you expect from a 10.7X zoom? The optical > performance is on a par with the much more expensive Panasonic lens of > the same focal length range. The Olympus is therefore quite a > bargain. > > Anyone expecting optical excellence will inevitably be disappointed by > any 10X zoom. The Olympus and Panasonic 14-150mm lenses are the > direct equivalent of the 28-300mm consumer grade zooms for 35mm SLRs, > or 18-200mm consumer grade zooms for APS-C (DX) DSLRs. Some are > better than others, but there just aren't any *good* ones. The laws > of physics don't allow a cheap 10X zoom lens to perform well. > > No matter how much you diss it, the Olympus M ZD 14-150mm is no worse > than any other 10X zoom lens, and is probably better than most. It is > a lens for those who value convenience and a reasonable price over > ultimate optical quality. > > So, the tests of the Panasonic 14-150mm and the Olympus 14-150mm look the same to you? Also, the Panasonic is optimized for video, read the whole test. http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/panasonicdmcgh1/page17.asp http://www.dpreview.com/lensreviews/olympus_m_14-150_4-5p6_o20/page3.asp |