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From: JSH on 18 Jul 2010 11:49 I use Usenet to brainstorm and in this cycle have wondered at times myself, what am I working on exactly now? And it occurs to me that I'm moving to what I think is a meta problem which is the global question of: why would anyone do mathematical research? And anyone can. I've repeatedly noted that I'm not a mathematician. And I do admittedly amateur math research for complex reasons and having come up with various explanations over the years, I've decided that a key one is that I ENJOY my little scribblings on lots of paper, and talking about them even in areas where a lot of people are mean to me, as I don't have any other places. Rather than not talk about my math unless I can get feedback without nastiness as well, I have had to try and learn how to deal with the nastiness, and stay focused on the why of posting itself, which I do. I use Usenet. So then, why should anyone do mathematical research? And can anyone do it? Do modern professional practitioners sufficiently hold the door open to outsiders? Or do they try to hold it closed claiming only they do it best? Do they do it best? James Harris
From: Frederick Williams on 18 Jul 2010 14:19 JSH wrote: > So then, why should anyone do mathematical research? Fame, fortune, beautiful women, appearing on chat shows, that sort of thing. -- I can't go on, I'll go on.
From: JSH on 19 Jul 2010 00:07 On Jul 18, 11:19 am, Frederick Williams <frederick.willia...(a)tesco.net> wrote: > JSH wrote: > > So then, why should anyone do mathematical research? > > Fame, fortune, beautiful women, appearing on chat shows, that sort of > thing. Wrong answer. Math fame is actually anathema to all of those things. People run from mathematicians like they have the plague. Women don't want strange guys who scribble incomprehensible stuff on pieces of paper. There are far easier ways to achieve fame and fortune. Mathematics is not one of them. So then, why bother doing math research? James Harris
From: Jesse F. Hughes on 19 Jul 2010 00:52 JSH <jstevh(a)gmail.com> writes: > On Jul 18, 11:19 am, Frederick Williams > <frederick.willia...(a)tesco.net> wrote: >> JSH wrote: >> > So then, why should anyone do mathematical research? >> >> Fame, fortune, beautiful women, appearing on chat shows, that sort of >> thing. > > Wrong answer. Math fame is actually anathema to all of those things. Lordy. Has your sense of sarcasm and parody been so utterly sacrificed? -- Jesse F. Hughes "For a gentle introduction to set theory, see Bourbaki (1970)." -- Footnote from "Transgressing the Boundaries", Alan Sokal
From: Nell Fenwick on 19 Jul 2010 10:33
"JSH" <jstevh(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:e762e3ee-423f-4b86-bebc-231a87588dd5(a)w15g2000pro.googlegroups.com... On Jul 18, 11:19 am, Frederick Williams <frederick.willia...(a)tesco.net> wrote: > JSH wrote: > > So then, why should anyone do mathematical research? > > Fame, fortune, beautiful women, appearing on chat shows, that sort of > thing. >Wrong answer. Math fame is actually anathema to all of those things. Wrong answer, I have quite a following due to math, and I like it, but I am also smart in Math, and you are not. >People run from mathematicians like they have the plague. Wrong, we are highly admired and honered, and we control a major part of the economy. >Women don't want strange guys who scribble incomprehensible stuff on >pieces of paper. Your stuff is incomprehensible, mine is clear and exciting to most who see the real me. >There are far easier ways to achieve fame and fortune. Agree, for you working at 7-11 will give you great fame, more than you have now. >Mathematics is not one of them. projecting again. >So then, why bother doing math research? you are projecting, there is no need for you to bother doing maths research. Now maths trolling is another story isn't it? >James Harris |