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From: Froggie the Gremlin on 22 Apr 2010 13:55
On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 04:43:41 -0700, Jim B <Jimmydud(a)abcdnet.net> wrotd:

>Now, having said that, how do you overcome or get around the problem when your
>ISP prohibits sending out email using other ISP email address, instead of sender
>ISP return address. The wording at the task bar looks like "Local Violation with
>different email address.....". All Setting check correct, including passwords,
>ports, authenticate blah, blah, not forgetting Personality. I even call my ISP,
>they disallow using Everestkc no reason given. Thanks, now don't get your temper
>up again:-)

Thank God I missed the temper part :-)

ISPs primarily do this so that emails cannot be counterfeited, i.e., using a
return address different that the service used to send it. To my knowledge,
the only way around it is to get yourself another SMTP service to send it
from rather than your current ISP's.

I'm lucky and have an ISP that allows counterfeited return addresses.. but
most of the time I use GMAIL to send (SMTP) my mail. It allows you to
authenticated any foreign address you wish for use in sending mail.

---<ribbit>

From: Froggie the Gremlin on 23 Apr 2010 09:13
On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 20:50:15 -0700, Jim B <Jimmydud(a)abcdnet.net> wrotd:

>On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 13:55:20 -0400, Froggie the Gremlin
><Froggie(a)see.sig.for.details> wrote:
>
>Snip for brevity...
>The downside using GMAIL,Yahoo or whatever, it take so much longer,
>need Wordprocessor (Spell/grammar) and Browser. Further, I could never
>remember passwords or addresses. Eudora and Agent (Usenet
>Newsgroup) shorten many of the tasks and save them too, from day one.
>
>Maybe I should ask now, can you send and receive email using Eudora
>rather than opening a browser? I never take the trouble to find out.

That's the way I always use GMAIL... I only use the web interface when I'm
without 'puter and on the road. The GMAIL experience is totally indigenous
to the normal use of EUDORA, both sending (via SMTP) and receiving (either
POP3 or IMAP). It requires a slight differing in the personality set up but
EUDORA starting at v6 (maybe v5, not sure) handles it nicely.

If you use email addresses other than your registered GMAIL address, that
arrive in your mailbox, GMAIL has a small, 1-time, authentication procedure
that allows you to authenticate that address... after that you may use that
authenticated address to send email via GMAIL. This keeps GMAIL users (aka
Spammers) from using GMAIL's SMTP service with just any email address they
wish.

Gmail, of course, allows you to "archive" up to 7gB of email and allows to
to use the best search engine on the planet to search that email, should you
ever need to... it has cut down on my EUDORA archive requirements
significantly.

It all works very nicely...

---<ribbit>

From: Jim B on 22 Apr 2010 23:50
On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 13:55:20 -0400, Froggie the Gremlin
<Froggie(a)see.sig.for.details> wrote:

Snip for brevity...

>ISPs primarily do this so that emails cannot be counterfeited, i.e., using a
>return address different that the service used to send it. To my knowledge,
>the only way around it is to get yourself another SMTP service to send it
>from rather than your current ISP's.

I like the way you explain it. I was wondering why some ISP change without
explanation.

>I'm lucky and have an ISP that allows counterfeited return addresses.. but
>most of the time I use GMAIL to send (SMTP) my mail. It allows you to
>authenticated any foreign address you wish for use in sending mail.

The downside using GMAIL,Yahoo or whatever, it take so much longer,
need Wordprocessor (Spell/grammar) and Browser. Further, I could never
remember passwords or addresses. Eudora and Agent (Usenet
Newsgroup) shorten many of the tasks and save them too, from day one.

Maybe I should ask now, can you send and receive email using Eudora
rather than opening a browser? I never take the trouble to find out.

Thanks:-)


>---<ribbit>

From: Han on 24 Apr 2010 08:15
Froggie the Gremlin <Froggie(a)see.sig.for.details> wrote in
news:kr63t59ujssvuem3c2viob5t36u3n2jfu1(a)4ax.com:

> On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 20:50:15 -0700, Jim B <Jimmydud(a)abcdnet.net>
> wrotd:
>
>>On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 13:55:20 -0400, Froggie the Gremlin
>><Froggie(a)see.sig.for.details> wrote:
>>
>>Snip for brevity...
>>The downside using GMAIL,Yahoo or whatever, it take so much longer,
>>need Wordprocessor (Spell/grammar) and Browser. Further, I could never
>>remember passwords or addresses. Eudora and Agent (Usenet
>>Newsgroup) shorten many of the tasks and save them too, from day one.
>>
>>Maybe I should ask now, can you send and receive email using Eudora
>>rather than opening a browser? I never take the trouble to find out.
>
> That's the way I always use GMAIL... I only use the web interface when
> I'm without 'puter and on the road. The GMAIL experience is totally
> indigenous to the normal use of EUDORA, both sending (via SMTP) and
> receiving (either POP3 or IMAP). It requires a slight differing in
> the personality set up but EUDORA starting at v6 (maybe v5, not sure)
> handles it nicely.
>
> If you use email addresses other than your registered GMAIL address,
> that arrive in your mailbox, GMAIL has a small, 1-time, authentication
> procedure that allows you to authenticate that address... after that
> you may use that authenticated address to send email via GMAIL. This
> keeps GMAIL users (aka Spammers) from using GMAIL's SMTP service with
> just any email address they wish.
>
> Gmail, of course, allows you to "archive" up to 7gB of email and
> allows to to use the best search engine on the planet to search that
> email, should you ever need to... it has cut down on my EUDORA archive
> requirements significantly.
>
> It all works very nicely...
>
> ---<ribbit>

I'll add to that that it would be easy to copy and paste into a browser
window with gmail. Moreover, the spellchecker in gmail is pretty good
too, even for different languages (at least for Dutch). I use the gmail
browser interface as primary, then collect also into Eudora. The main
disadvantage of a browser is that you need a live internet connection,
unless you've set gmail to work (also) off line. I have no experience
with that, though.

--
Best regards
Han
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