From: Jasen Betts on
On 2010-06-11, BlindBaby <BlindMelonChitlin(a)wellnevergetthatonethealbumcover.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 08:16:29 -0500, John Fields
><jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote:
>
....
>>SYMBOL res -400 256 R0
>>SYMATTR InstName R2
>>SYMATTR Value 100k
>>SYMBOL res -512 160 R0
>>SYMATTR InstName R3
>>SYMATTR Value 1000
>>SYMBOL cap -128 304 R0
>>SYMATTR InstName C2
>>SYMATTR Value 1e-7
>>SYMBOL res 0 320 R0
>>SYMATTR InstName R4
>>SYMATTR Value 750
>>TEXT 32 184 Left 0 !K1 L1 L2 1
>>TEXT -528 464 Left 0 !.tran 5
>>TEXT -528 496 Left 0 !.wave .\\bong.wav 8 10000 N008
>
> LT doesn't like all the SYMATTR use. It expects to only see it once.

Works fine here. version 4.07q

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From: Jasen Betts on
On 2010-06-11, Robert Baer <robertbaer(a)localnet.com> wrote:
> YD wrote:
>> Late at night, by candle light, Jeroen Belleman <jeroen(a)nospam.please>
>> penned this immortal opus:
>>
>>> John Larkin wrote:
>>>> I like the way it works with a very high turns ratio, very small AC
>>>> drive at the emitter. But at lower ratios, it gets very nonlinear and
>>>> becomes, if that means anything, a tuned blocking oscillator. The base
>>>> capacitor value would be lowered so that the cap recharges a bunch
>>>> during a oscillatory cycle.
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure JT and JF will spend the next week diligently searching for a
>>>> set of values that will make my circuit not work. Then they'll crow,
>>>> or rather, cluck about it. That's OK: as Woody Allen says, we need the
>>>> eggs.
>>> I made it squeg. Maybe that will please them.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, the tank's Q must be kept high. Increasing La's series R makes it
>> squegg in a rather amusing way. Might be fun capturing it to a .wav.
>>
>> JL: Can you recall ballpark the values of the inductors and associated
>> frequencies in the physical circuit? High valued Ls tend to be rather
>> resistive unless they're grossly oversized.
>>
>> - YD.
>>
> In fact, it would be interesting to know how to "resonate" an
> inductor that has a lot of (internal) resistance.

add external negative resistance.

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From: John Larkin on
On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 08:53:20 +0100, John Devereux
<john(a)devereux.me.uk> wrote:

>John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> writes:
>
>> On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 17:43:39 -0300, YD <ydtechHAT(a)techie.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Late at night, by candle light, John Larkin
>>><jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> penned this immortal
>>>opus:
>
>[...]
>
>>
>> That's nice. It's running pretty hard class C.
>>
>> Try this:
>>
>> C2 = 10 uF
>> L2 = 0.25 uH
>>
>> That will move it to class A, with about 50 millivolts p-p drive at
>> the emitter. That's more like what I had in mind originally. Vb is
>> stiff at about +0.6, and Vc dips down to about -0.1, a little below
>> Ve, sucking a brief blip of current out of the base cap. The sine wave
>> is just slightly flattened on the bottom.
>>
>> It's useful to add a small resistor, like 1 milliohm, in the emitter
>> so that you can probe the current. It's interesting.
>
>Hi John,
>
>You don't need to add the the resistor. You can just measure the emitter
>current by clicking on it!
>

I couldn't get that to work. Maybe my aim isn't good enough.

John


From: Archimedes' Lever on
On 12 Jun 2010 08:39:10 GMT, Jasen Betts <jasen(a)xnet.co.nz> wrote:

>On 2010-06-11, BlindBaby <BlindMelonChitlin(a)wellnevergetthatonethealbumcover.org> wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 08:16:29 -0500, John Fields
>><jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote:
>>
>...
>>>SYMBOL res -400 256 R0
>>>SYMATTR InstName R2
>>>SYMATTR Value 100k
>>>SYMBOL res -512 160 R0
>>>SYMATTR InstName R3
>>>SYMATTR Value 1000
>>>SYMBOL cap -128 304 R0
>>>SYMATTR InstName C2
>>>SYMATTR Value 1e-7
>>>SYMBOL res 0 320 R0
>>>SYMATTR InstName R4
>>>SYMATTR Value 750
>>>TEXT 32 184 Left 0 !K1 L1 L2 1
>>>TEXT -528 464 Left 0 !.tran 5
>>>TEXT -528 496 Left 0 !.wave .\\bong.wav 8 10000 N008
>>
>> LT doesn't like all the SYMATTR use. It expects to only see it once.
>
>Works fine here. version 4.07q
>
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I chose the wrong extension to name the file with.
From: Archimedes' Lever on
On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 20:31:02 +1000, Grant <omg(a)grrr.id.au> wrote:

>On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:02:58 -0700, John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:37:52 -0700, BlindBaby
>><BlindMelonChitlin(a)wellnevergetthatonethealbumcover.org> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 08:07:41 +1000, Grant <omg(a)grrr.id.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 08:16:29 -0500, John Fields <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 07:02:03 -0500, John Fields
>>>>><jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On 10 Jun 2010 13:23:55 -0700, Winfield Hill
>>>>>><Winfield_member(a)newsguy.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In a ringing bell application, as the supply voltage sags,
>>>>>>> and the amplitude drops, I imagine the circuit will move
>>>>>>> from class C back to class A operation, before stopping.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>---
>>>>>>Why imagine?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Here's a circuit list that'll show it all _and_ it'll create a .wav
>>>>>>file, "bong.wav" in whatever folder the cicuit's in, so you can hear
>>>>>>it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Enjoy! :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>---
>>>>>Oops...
>>>>>Here it is:
>>>>
>>>>Sounds wonderful! There's so much I don't know about what LTSpice
>>>>can do :( More examples that load and work as advertised, the better :)
>>>>
>>>>Grant.
>>>
>>>
>>> LTSpiceIV just came out today!
>>>
>>>http://www.linear.com/designtools/software/switchercad.jsp
>>
>>
>>I've been running 4.07 for a couple of weeks now.
>
>Mine updated itself a while back, just checked --> 4.07.
>
>Grant.

4.07 what.

Mine is 4.07z

They do auto-update, but not on every run. So, you may still have the
one you loaded originally.