From: Vulture on 17 Feb 2010 19:52 The recent 6 Feb 2010 mega security update included KB977165. Installation of KB977165 has been linked to subsequent XP failures including blue screens & various login failures . THESE SYMPTOMS ALSO OCCUR ON VISTA ULTIMATE SP2 !!! I have a 32-bit Vista Ultimate system networked with a Windows Home Server PP2, both kept up to date daily via Windows Update. The Vista desktop normally sleeps to facilitate these updates & auto backups to the WHS. After installing the 6 Feb 2010 mega security update on the desktop & WHS, the subsequent reboots went smoothly. Attempts to download photos via USB 2 failed, with the message "No driver" and auto logout from that user name, requiring re-login. This occurred on 2 normal users & admin. However, subsequent reboots to clear the problem yielded either a BLUE SCREEN before logon screen or during entry of password, or cursor froze prohibiting entry of password and reboot again necessary Eventually entered SAFE MODE WITH NETWORKING and although could access WHS console with the intention of a complete system disk restore, SAFE MODE prohibited me installing latest system restore disk from M/s site, so therefore abandoned WHS restore. (... must remember to download new WHS Restore CD, mine is only PP1 ...!) Still in SAFE MODE, I accessed installed updates via control panel>programs & features, AND UNINSTALLED KB977165 leaving all other 6 Feb 2010 security updates installed & re-booted. RESULT: no BLUE SCREEN, normal login, and system seems back to normal. CONCLUSION: KB977165 is a disaster, and certainly applies to Vista Ultimate as well as XP. NB: Each BLUE SCREEN produced a system dump which I presume will have been uploaded to M/s for their analysis. COMMENT: On rechecking System Update, I was somewhat alarmed to see that I now have 1 important download: correct, - it's KB977165, which I have NOT re-installed! (A blog I read in or via PC Pro stated KB977165 patch since withdrawn on Windows Update, though still optionally available for servers, or was that just for XP systems?) RECOMMENDATION: Immediate Windows Update patch to remove any installed KB977165 patch from ALL systems. Vultch
From: G. R. Woodring on 17 Feb 2010 20:44 I have the KB977165 update installed and haven't had any problems. If your system is infected by a rootkit similar to what has been found on the XP systems, you should deal with that. I _want_ the protection provided by the update. If you want to remove it, hide it, block it or whatever, I can understand that as you have been one of those afflicted with a BSOD, but for most users it was just another welcome security update. -- G. R. Woodring Date: 2/17/2010 7:52 PM, Author: Vulture Wrote: > The recent 6 Feb 2010 mega security update included KB977165. Installation > of KB977165 has been linked to subsequent XP failures including blue screens > & various login failures . > > THESE SYMPTOMS ALSO OCCUR ON VISTA ULTIMATE SP2 !!! > > I have a 32-bit Vista Ultimate system networked with a Windows Home Server > PP2, both kept up to date daily via Windows Update. The Vista desktop > normally sleeps to facilitate these updates & auto backups to the WHS. > > After installing the 6 Feb 2010 mega security update on the desktop & WHS, > the subsequent reboots went smoothly. > > Attempts to download photos via USB 2 failed, with the message "No driver" > and auto logout from that user name, requiring re-login. This occurred on 2 > normal users & admin. > > However, subsequent reboots to clear the problem yielded either a BLUE > SCREEN before logon screen or during entry of password, or cursor froze > prohibiting entry of password and reboot again necessary > > Eventually entered SAFE MODE WITH NETWORKING and although could access WHS > console with the intention of a complete system disk restore, SAFE MODE > prohibited me installing latest system restore disk from M/s site, so > therefore abandoned WHS restore. (... must remember to download new WHS > Restore CD, mine is only PP1 ...!) > > Still in SAFE MODE, I accessed installed updates via control panel>programs > & features, AND UNINSTALLED KB977165 leaving all other 6 Feb 2010 security > updates installed & re-booted. > > RESULT: no BLUE SCREEN, normal login, and system seems back to normal. > > CONCLUSION: KB977165 is a disaster, and certainly applies to Vista Ultimate > as well as XP. > > NB: Each BLUE SCREEN produced a system dump which I presume will have been > uploaded to M/s for their analysis. > > COMMENT: On rechecking System Update, I was somewhat alarmed to see that I > now have 1 important download: correct, - it's KB977165, which I have NOT > re-installed! (A blog I read in or via PC Pro stated KB977165 patch since > withdrawn on Windows Update, though still optionally available for servers, > or was that just for XP systems?) > > RECOMMENDATION: Immediate Windows Update patch to remove any installed > KB977165 patch from ALL systems. > > Vultch
From: Harry Johnston [MVP] on 17 Feb 2010 22:58 Given your description of the sequence of events, I would guess it most likely that the cause of the problem was not KB977165 and the timing was coincidental. Recommend you reinstall it and see if the problem recurs. Harry. On 2010-02-18 1:52 p.m., Vulture wrote: > The recent 6 Feb 2010 mega security update included KB977165. Installation > of KB977165 has been linked to subsequent XP failures including blue screens > & various login failures . > > THESE SYMPTOMS ALSO OCCUR ON VISTA ULTIMATE SP2 !!! > > I have a 32-bit Vista Ultimate system networked with a Windows Home Server > PP2, both kept up to date daily via Windows Update. The Vista desktop > normally sleeps to facilitate these updates& auto backups to the WHS. > > After installing the 6 Feb 2010 mega security update on the desktop& WHS, > the subsequent reboots went smoothly. > > Attempts to download photos via USB 2 failed, with the message "No driver" > and auto logout from that user name, requiring re-login. This occurred on 2 > normal users& admin. > > However, subsequent reboots to clear the problem yielded either a BLUE > SCREEN before logon screen or during entry of password, or cursor froze > prohibiting entry of password and reboot again necessary > > Eventually entered SAFE MODE WITH NETWORKING and although could access WHS > console with the intention of a complete system disk restore, SAFE MODE > prohibited me installing latest system restore disk from M/s site, so > therefore abandoned WHS restore. (... must remember to download new WHS > Restore CD, mine is only PP1 ...!) > > Still in SAFE MODE, I accessed installed updates via control panel>programs > & features, AND UNINSTALLED KB977165 leaving all other 6 Feb 2010 security > updates installed& re-booted. > > RESULT: no BLUE SCREEN, normal login, and system seems back to normal. > > CONCLUSION: KB977165 is a disaster, and certainly applies to Vista Ultimate > as well as XP. > > NB: Each BLUE SCREEN produced a system dump which I presume will have been > uploaded to M/s for their analysis. > > COMMENT: On rechecking System Update, I was somewhat alarmed to see that I > now have 1 important download: correct, - it's KB977165, which I have NOT > re-installed! (A blog I read in or via PC Pro stated KB977165 patch since > withdrawn on Windows Update, though still optionally available for servers, > or was that just for XP systems?) > > RECOMMENDATION: Immediate Windows Update patch to remove any installed > KB977165 patch from ALL systems. > > Vultch
From: PA Bear [MS MVP] on 18 Feb 2010 01:40 You, too, can be infected by W32/Alureon! The Microsoft Security Response Center (MSRC): Update - Restart Issues After Installing MS10-015 and the Alureon Rootkit "Our investigation has concluded that the reboot occurs because the system is infected with malware, specifically the Alureon rootkit." http://blogs.technet.com/msrc/archive/2010/02/17/update-restart-issues-after-installing-ms10-015-and-the-alureon-rootkit.aspx Conclusion: The patch is fine; your computer's a disaster. -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002 Vulture wrote: > The recent 6 Feb 2010 mega security update included KB977165. > Installation > of KB977165 has been linked to subsequent XP failures including blue > screens > & various login failures . > > THESE SYMPTOMS ALSO OCCUR ON VISTA ULTIMATE SP2 !!! > > I have a 32-bit Vista Ultimate system networked with a Windows Home Server > PP2, both kept up to date daily via Windows Update. The Vista desktop > normally sleeps to facilitate these updates & auto backups to the WHS. > > After installing the 6 Feb 2010 mega security update on the desktop & WHS, > the subsequent reboots went smoothly. > > Attempts to download photos via USB 2 failed, with the message "No driver" > and auto logout from that user name, requiring re-login. This occurred on > 2 > normal users & admin. > > However, subsequent reboots to clear the problem yielded either a BLUE > SCREEN before logon screen or during entry of password, or cursor froze > prohibiting entry of password and reboot again necessary > > Eventually entered SAFE MODE WITH NETWORKING and although could access WHS > console with the intention of a complete system disk restore, SAFE MODE > prohibited me installing latest system restore disk from M/s site, so > therefore abandoned WHS restore. (... must remember to download new WHS > Restore CD, mine is only PP1 ...!) > > Still in SAFE MODE, I accessed installed updates via control > panel>programs > & features, AND UNINSTALLED KB977165 leaving all other 6 Feb 2010 security > updates installed & re-booted. > > RESULT: no BLUE SCREEN, normal login, and system seems back to normal. > > CONCLUSION: KB977165 is a disaster, and certainly applies to Vista > Ultimate > as well as XP. > > NB: Each BLUE SCREEN produced a system dump which I presume will have > been > uploaded to M/s for their analysis. > > COMMENT: On rechecking System Update, I was somewhat alarmed to see that > I > now have 1 important download: correct, - it's KB977165, which I have NOT > re-installed! (A blog I read in or via PC Pro stated KB977165 patch since > withdrawn on Windows Update, though still optionally available for > servers, > or was that just for XP systems?) > > RECOMMENDATION: Immediate Windows Update patch to remove any installed > KB977165 patch from ALL systems. > > Vultch
From: Michael on 18 Feb 2010 07:25 Now, now, Robear. We all know the complainers are perfect and the computers are the problem. -- "Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you." "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:uedasYGsKHA.3968(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > You, too, can be infected by W32/Alureon! > > The Microsoft Security Response Center (MSRC): Update - Restart Issues > After Installing MS10-015 and the Alureon Rootkit > "Our investigation has concluded that the reboot occurs because the system > is infected with malware, specifically the Alureon rootkit." > http://blogs.technet.com/msrc/archive/2010/02/17/update-restart-issues-after-installing-ms10-015-and-the-alureon-rootkit.aspx > > Conclusion: The patch is fine; your computer's a disaster. > -- > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) > MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002 > > > Vulture wrote: >> The recent 6 Feb 2010 mega security update included KB977165. >> Installation >> of KB977165 has been linked to subsequent XP failures including blue >> screens >> & various login failures . >> >> THESE SYMPTOMS ALSO OCCUR ON VISTA ULTIMATE SP2 !!! >> >> I have a 32-bit Vista Ultimate system networked with a Windows Home >> Server >> PP2, both kept up to date daily via Windows Update. The Vista desktop >> normally sleeps to facilitate these updates & auto backups to the WHS. >> >> After installing the 6 Feb 2010 mega security update on the desktop & >> WHS, >> the subsequent reboots went smoothly. >> >> Attempts to download photos via USB 2 failed, with the message "No >> driver" >> and auto logout from that user name, requiring re-login. This occurred on >> 2 >> normal users & admin. >> >> However, subsequent reboots to clear the problem yielded either a BLUE >> SCREEN before logon screen or during entry of password, or cursor froze >> prohibiting entry of password and reboot again necessary >> >> Eventually entered SAFE MODE WITH NETWORKING and although could access >> WHS >> console with the intention of a complete system disk restore, SAFE MODE >> prohibited me installing latest system restore disk from M/s site, so >> therefore abandoned WHS restore. (... must remember to download new WHS >> Restore CD, mine is only PP1 ...!) >> >> Still in SAFE MODE, I accessed installed updates via control >> panel>programs >> & features, AND UNINSTALLED KB977165 leaving all other 6 Feb 2010 >> security >> updates installed & re-booted. >> >> RESULT: no BLUE SCREEN, normal login, and system seems back to normal. >> >> CONCLUSION: KB977165 is a disaster, and certainly applies to Vista >> Ultimate >> as well as XP. >> >> NB: Each BLUE SCREEN produced a system dump which I presume will have >> been >> uploaded to M/s for their analysis. >> >> COMMENT: On rechecking System Update, I was somewhat alarmed to see that >> I >> now have 1 important download: correct, - it's KB977165, which I have NOT >> re-installed! (A blog I read in or via PC Pro stated KB977165 patch >> since >> withdrawn on Windows Update, though still optionally available for >> servers, >> or was that just for XP systems?) >> >> RECOMMENDATION: Immediate Windows Update patch to remove any installed >> KB977165 patch from ALL systems. >> >> Vultch >
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