From: Kaimbridge on 17 Jun 2005 15:20 I upgraded to a whole new PC last month (2.8 GHz, 80 GB, WinXP-HE [SP2]). The local computer store that sold me and set up the system, installed "BitDefender 8 Standard" (30 day free trial) for introductory anti-virus protection. For a permanent anti-virus ("a-v") platform, the store is pushing Norton 2005 ("N2K5") [when I got my original PC from them in 1997, the suggestion--which I took--was McAfee, which I've found to be bloated and somewhat buggy--though part of it may have been exasperated by my 200 MHz, 2.1 GB dinosaur! P=) ]. Googling around, another a-v package that seems decent is Kaspersky (is it pronounced "CASper Sky" or "Kass PERskee"?). I asked about it at the computer store and supposedly they never heard of Kaspersky: Given that it seems to be well known in the computer geek circles (including major computer magazines), I find the store's (supposed) lack of awareness rather suspect (though, in that it is a Russian company and I haven't seen their products in local stores, I suppose it *is* possible). There is an added wrinkle, however. On a couple of programs I've run, I've gotten the "16 bit MS-DOS Subsystem" error box, "C:\PROGRA~1\Symantec\S32EVNT1.DLL. An installable Virtual Device Driver failed Dll initialization. Choose 'Close' to terminate the application." Doing a Google search, I see that it is the result of a faulty/corrupt Symantec (i.e., Norton) register--HUH!!!: AFAIK I *don't have any* Symantec programs/folders/files on my 'puter! But, sure enough, while visiting the registry (regarding a separate issue--see below), there *is* a Symantec registry folder!?! I had been inclined to go along with the store's N2K5 recommendation [though I'd probably get it at Wal-Mart, where it's $10-15 cheaper P=) ], but the more I think about it, the more galling it becomes to think that Symantec somehow had a folder (registry, yet!) preemtively added to the system (once again, the computer store appeared clueless, denying that they added it in during the setup, or even knew about it, and even went so far as to say, "when you install N2K5, that should clear things up"!). The only other possibility I can think of is that it is somehow related to and/or introduced by WinXP's SP2: The reason that I was in the registry was that SP2 locked out WordPad's ability to load "Word For Windows 6.0" ".doc" files, due to an apparent security hole. Could SP2 have added the Symantec folder? Or, is Norton the "unofficial" WinXP a-v program? Or... ....am I just paranoid and there is a perfectly legitimate reason for the Symantec folder (i.e., some other, unrelated Symantec program)? >From what I've read, Kaspersky appears at least as good as N2K5, though there *is* one page of reviews that is less than flattering: http://www.pcmag.com/member_ratings/0,1757,ss=0&s=1474&a=26455,00.asp Have any newly discovered issues with Kaspersky come up? Would it hurt to try their 30 day trial?--or, if I did decide to choose N2K5 or something else (or even decide on Kaspersky), would all of the leftover debris from the two trial versions (even after "uninstalling") likely create any potential conflicts/issues? ~Kaimbridge~ ----- Wanted-Kaimbridge (w/mugshot!): http://www.angelfire.com/ma2/digitology/Wanted_KMGC.html ---------- Digitology-The Grand Theory Of The Universe: http://www.angelfire.com/ma2/digitology/index.html ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. *****
From: Ron Reaugh on 17 Jun 2005 16:12 Use AVG from www.grisoft.com it's free. Don't even think about Symantec. <Kaimbridge(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:1119036031.004379.145030(a)f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > I upgraded to a whole new PC last month (2.8 GHz, 80 GB, WinXP-HE > [SP2]). > The local computer store that sold me and set up the system, > installed "BitDefender 8 Standard" (30 day free trial) for > introductory anti-virus protection. > For a permanent anti-virus ("a-v") platform, the store is pushing > Norton 2005 ("N2K5") [when I got my original PC from them in 1997, > the suggestion--which I took--was McAfee, which I've found to be > bloated and somewhat buggy--though part of it may have been > exasperated by my 200 MHz, 2.1 GB dinosaur! P=) ]. > Googling around, another a-v package that seems decent is Kaspersky > (is it pronounced "CASper Sky" or "Kass PERskee"?). > I asked about it at the computer store and supposedly they never > heard of Kaspersky: Given that it seems to be well known in the > computer geek circles (including major computer magazines), I find > the store's (supposed) lack of awareness rather suspect (though, in > that it is a Russian company and I haven't seen their products in > local stores, I suppose it *is* possible). > There is an added wrinkle, however. > On a couple of programs I've run, I've gotten the "16 bit MS-DOS > Subsystem" error box, "C:\PROGRA~1\Symantec\S32EVNT1.DLL. An > installable Virtual Device Driver failed Dll initialization. Choose > 'Close' to terminate the application." > Doing a Google search, I see that it is the result of a > faulty/corrupt Symantec (i.e., Norton) register--HUH!!!: AFAIK I > *don't have any* Symantec programs/folders/files on my 'puter! > But, sure enough, while visiting the registry (regarding a separate > issue--see below), there *is* a Symantec registry folder!?! > I had been inclined to go along with the store's N2K5 recommendation > [though I'd probably get it at Wal-Mart, where it's $10-15 cheaper > P=) ], but the more I think about it, the more galling it becomes to > think that Symantec somehow had a folder (registry, yet!) preemtively > added to the system (once again, the computer store appeared clueless, > denying that they added it in during the setup, or even knew about it, > and even went so far as to say, "when you install N2K5, that should > clear things up"!). > The only other possibility I can think of is that it is somehow related > to and/or introduced by WinXP's SP2: The reason that I was in the > registry was that SP2 locked out WordPad's ability to load > "Word For Windows 6.0" ".doc" files, due to an apparent security hole. > Could SP2 have added the Symantec folder? > Or, is Norton the "unofficial" WinXP a-v program? > > Or... > ...am I just paranoid and there is a perfectly legitimate reason for > the > Symantec folder (i.e., some other, unrelated Symantec program)? > > >From what I've read, Kaspersky appears at least as good as N2K5, though > there *is* one page of reviews that is less than flattering: > > http://www.pcmag.com/member_ratings/0,1757,ss=0&s=1474&a=26455,00.asp > > Have any newly discovered issues with Kaspersky come up? > > Would it hurt to try their 30 day trial?--or, if I did decide to choose > N2K5 or something else (or even decide on Kaspersky), would all of the > leftover debris from the two trial versions (even after "uninstalling") > likely create any potential conflicts/issues? > > ~Kaimbridge~ > > ----- > Wanted-Kaimbridge (w/mugshot!): > http://www.angelfire.com/ma2/digitology/Wanted_KMGC.html > ---------- > Digitology-The Grand Theory Of The Universe: > http://www.angelfire.com/ma2/digitology/index.html > > ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** >
From: Allen L. on 17 Jun 2005 19:18 In news:1119036031.004379.145030(a)f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com, Kaimbridge(a)gmail.com <Kaimbridge(a)gmail.com> typed: > I upgraded to a whole new PC last month (2.8 GHz, 80 GB, WinXP-HE > [SP2]). > The local computer store that sold me and set up the system, > installed "BitDefender 8 Standard" (30 day free trial) for > introductory anti-virus protection. > For a permanent anti-virus ("a-v") platform, the store is pushing > Norton 2005 ("N2K5") <<snipped>> As far a virus programs go there is a large difference between Norton and say Symantec Corporate A.V.s The corporate version Symantec Antivirus is as different as night and day from Norton. They are both bloated in size as most all software seems to be at present. Symantec is designed without the frills of Norton and is business like in it's AV properties and does a very good job in my opinion. ....Allen
From: Bud on 17 Jun 2005 21:45 A trial period is always a good option, whether of Kaspersky or...? Although I've used Norton for many years, may I suggest for an anti-virus that you also consider NOD23. It is highly rated and within the same price of others - excepting the freebies, of course. Good hunting. Bud
From: Tony Meyer on 17 Jun 2005 21:57 I use AVG 7.0 on my machine, and install it for customers a lot. I reckon its a bloody good program, with far less bloat than Norton or Mcaffee. It looks after itself, if its configured properly, I've found my customers really enjoy not having to touch it, or very rarely, in which case i normally get a phone call, and i can sort it for them over the phone. And its free, so if your looking to save some bucks its right there. -- Tony Meyer CompUTec Computer & Network Services Pukekohe New Zealand "Bud" <bud(a)large.org> wrote in message news:6bCdnf04D7ki4S7fRVn-sA(a)comcast.com... >A trial period is always a good option, whether of Kaspersky or...? > Although I've used Norton for many years, may I suggest for an anti-virus > that you also consider NOD23. > It is highly rated and within the same price of others - excepting the > freebies, of course. Good hunting. > > Bud
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