Keep Nashville On Hold
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From: Benjamin Goldman on 21 Jun 2010 10:19 Robin Banks wrote: > Robin Banks <Your(a)email.com> whinged > news:Xns9D869841AA2EBRobinBanksGBLLC(a)85.214.73.210: > > > Tonight, apparently. Master Ess has updated his Soundclick page, > > and I have been charged to spam you poor folks with his new demo > > song, a self exlanatory ditty that Master B. lifted from Gary's > > JS-5 Jam Station. > > > > http://www.soundclick.com/garyess > > After conversing with the authors and musicians, some things were > glaringly evident: > > 1. The first 8 bars were "kittywonkas"... A genuine Native North > American term for "fzcked" or "Out of Square" according to Masters B. > and S. This was alleviated somewhat by removing the scratch track, > adding a synth to strengthen the melody out of the gate, chaging the > bass patch to get rid of an out=of-tune sample, redoing the bass > line, and sampling various guitar parts from all over the song. > > 2. There was a horrid vocal harmony that crept into the mix just > before the modulation which made Gary's "skin crawl." This version > fixes the harmony before the "Bb thing in the middle." > > 3. Guitars more upfront as befitting of a tune with "Nashville" in > the name, and some mild compression added to de-spike the clean Tele. > > 4. Patches changed: Bass from Fretless to Fingered with gobs of > reverb and no chorus, Synth from Caliope to Saw Wave with gobs of > reverb AND chorus, and Muted Guitar patch bathed in reverb and > chorus. Also more reverb on the drums, as the boys thought it was > time to get him out of the broom closet and into the bar with them to > meet all the old broads and drink a bit. > > 5. They want ME to do a vocal line on it! Good Lord, and I don't mean > "Jon," they do NOT need a boozy old rocker ruining this thing! > > It's all here, minus the extra vocals, as I believe it sounds > "British" enough. #4 on the Beach charts (Gary said this song has > always "been a Beach" or something like that) and it is "Keep > Nashville on Hold," brickwalled to anhilate songs 1, 2, and 3. > > http://www.soundclick.com/garyess > > Thank you for any help you can be with the mix as my ears are burnt > out on this thing. It seems I can get it sounding fine in the 24 bit > host, but it doesn't translate well to wave or worse, MP3, with the > downsampling. The beginning is still cattywompus but after a little time the song becomes very good. The lead vocal is great. His vibrato is awesome - very fluid. That darn beginning can easily keep a listner from getting to the best part . . . most of it is the best part BUT I think the beginning should be tossed out and replaced. -- Cheers, Ben
From: Benjamin Goldman on 21 Jun 2010 13:13 Robin Banks wrote: > "Benjamin Goldman" <bengoldmanSKIPIT(a)centurytel.net> tapped the mic > and said news:xn0gvn5h96ec2el001bengoldman(a)news.nw.centurytel.net: > > > Robin Banks wrote: > > > >> Robin Banks <Your(a)email.com> whinged > >> news:Xns9D869841AA2EBRobinBanksGBLLC(a)85.214.73.210: > >> > >> > Tonight, apparently. Master Ess has updated his Soundclick page, > >> > and I have been charged to spam you poor folks with his new demo > >> > song, a self exlanatory ditty that Master B. lifted from Gary's > >> > JS-5 Jam Station. > >> > > >> > http://www.soundclick.com/garyess > >> > >> After conversing with the authors and musicians, some things were > >> glaringly evident: > >> > >> 1. The first 8 bars were "kittywonkas"... A genuine Native North > >> American term for "fzcked" or "Out of Square" according to Masters > B. >> and S. This was alleviated somewhat by removing the scratch > track, >> adding a synth to strengthen the melody out of the gate, > chaging the >> bass patch to get rid of an out=of-tune sample, > redoing the bass >> line, and sampling various guitar parts from all > over the song. >> > >> 2. There was a horrid vocal harmony that crept into the mix just > >> before the modulation which made Gary's "skin crawl." This version > >> fixes the harmony before the "Bb thing in the middle." > >> > >> 3. Guitars more upfront as befitting of a tune with "Nashville" in > >> the name, and some mild compression added to de-spike the clean > Tele. >> > >> 4. Patches changed: Bass from Fretless to Fingered with gobs of > >> reverb and no chorus, Synth from Caliope to Saw Wave with gobs of > >> reverb AND chorus, and Muted Guitar patch bathed in reverb and > >> chorus. Also more reverb on the drums, as the boys thought it was > >> time to get him out of the broom closet and into the bar with them > to >> meet all the old broads and drink a bit. > >> > >> 5. They want ME to do a vocal line on it! Good Lord, and I don't > mean >> "Jon," they do NOT need a boozy old rocker ruining this thing! > >> > >> It's all here, minus the extra vocals, as I believe it sounds > >> "British" enough. #4 on the Beach charts (Gary said this song has > >> always "been a Beach" or something like that) and it is "Keep > >> Nashville on Hold," brickwalled to anhilate songs 1, 2, and 3. > >> > >> http://www.soundclick.com/garyess > >> > >> Thank you for any help you can be with the mix as my ears are burnt > >> out on this thing. It seems I can get it sounding fine in the 24 > bit >> host, but it doesn't translate well to wave or worse, MP3, > with the >> downsampling. > > > > The beginning is still cattywompus but after a little time the song > > becomes very good. The lead vocal is great. His vibrato is > > awesome - very fluid. > > > > That darn beginning can easily keep a listner from getting to the > > best part . . . most of it is the best part BUT I think the > > beginning should be tossed out and replaced. > > > > Alas, Master S. actually wants to keep that beginning. It was > entirely his idea. He explains the fact that it is a bit rough only > underscores the irony of the theme. Also, I am just the mere > technician in this process. He is the Author, Producer, and Performer. > > We have had some other very memorable performances out here, but it > has had nothing to do with music or the arts! Perhaps you should > visit sometime to see exactly what we are talking about, like when > Master Smokin' Ray returns from working on the railroad in August! :o) > > Meanwhile since it is now far below Master B's "paygrade," I may have > to assist Master BC mixing live shows and various festivals with > either the GL-2800 840 http://www.allen-heath.co.uk/us/gl2800.asp or > possibly just run the monitors with the > http://www.allen-heath.co.uk/us/gl2800m.asp I'm going to try and get out there this August. Maybe the wife will want to come with. I can get to your place same day. Not very short time but same day. ;-) -- Cheers, Ben
From: Benjamin Goldman on 26 Jun 2010 19:29 Robin Banks wrote: > Glennbo <vdrumsYourHeadFromYourAss(a)cox.net> tapped the mic and said > news:Xns9D9FE56BC6614BrownShoesDontMakeIt(a)81.169.183.62: > > > In news:Xns9D9E59904A0E0RobinBanksLLC(a)188.40.43.230 the killer robot > > Robin Banks <Your(a)email.com> grabbed the controls of the spaceship > > cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons... > > > >> Oh dear! It just occurred to me that you may not know Master BC. > He is >> a former student and disciple of the Legendary Master Bob, > >> http://www.heilsound.com/pro/aboutus/ He has agreed to take me on > as a >> temporary apprentice as required for his various venues. > > > > Well Heil, have 'em learn ya how to make a "Talk Box"! ;) > > > > That was the first Heil design I saw at the local music store. > > > > I should be clear that Master BC, not Grand Exulted Poobah of Live > Sound Bob Heil, will be my master. Grand Master Bob did the same for > Master BC several years ago. I actually have dug up Master B's old > Heil Sound Talk Box to look at, but it needs a new hose. Now where is > a fresh hoser when you need one? Master Michael? :o) You don't want any abused equipment. ;-) -- Cheers, Ben
From: Michael on 26 Jun 2010 19:39 Benjamin Goldman wrote: > > Robin Banks wrote: > >> Glennbo <vdrumsYourHeadFromYourAss(a)cox.net> tapped the mic and said >> news:Xns9D9FE56BC6614BrownShoesDontMakeIt(a)81.169.183.62: >> >> > In news:Xns9D9E59904A0E0RobinBanksLLC(a)188.40.43.230 the killer robot >> > Robin Banks <Your(a)email.com> grabbed the controls of the spaceship >> > cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons... >> > >> >> Oh dear! It just occurred to me that you may not know Master BC. >> He is >> a former student and disciple of the Legendary Master Bob, >> >> http://www.heilsound.com/pro/aboutus/ He has agreed to take me on >> as a >> temporary apprentice as required for his various venues. >> > >> > Well Heil, have 'em learn ya how to make a "Talk Box"! ;) >> > >> > That was the first Heil design I saw at the local music store. >> > >> >> I should be clear that Master BC, not Grand Exulted Poobah of Live >> Sound Bob Heil, will be my master. Grand Master Bob did the same for >> Master BC several years ago. I actually have dug up Master B's old >> Heil Sound Talk Box to look at, but it needs a new hose. Now where is >> a fresh hoser when you need one? Master Michael? :o) > > You don't want any abused equipment. ;-) Provided Master B's "freshness" requirements for donated equipment don't exclude self-abuse, perhaps I'm the hoser he oughta be talking to. Convincing the current user to give it up to a rig pig isn't my department, however... you'll have to write an absolutely deadly grant proposal without my help.
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