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From: Gareth Magennis on 4 Feb 2010 14:54

Hi,

I've had my Kyocera mono laser printer for about 6 years now, though its
only on its second toner cartridge. The problem is it wont reliably feed
the paper through any more.

I have tried to disassemble but can't get very far.
There is a short, fat, light grey rubber roller that picks up the paper
that I have removed (plastic circlip) and cleaned a few times, with a can of
Platenclene and cotton buds. This seems to feed the paper towards two long
thin rubber rollers that pinch the paper between themselves and long shiny
metal rollers. The paper doesn't get to feed through this second roller
combination. I have cleaned these several times too, but the problem
remains. All the rubber looks and feels quite squidgy and grippy, not hard
and shiny at all.

Any hints?

One other thing that is really annoying - when the printer fails, I open the
paper drawer to remove the folded over sheet that hasn't gone any further.
I then switch off and switch back on the printer to get out of its flashing
LED paper jam mode. The problem is that it takes a very very long time
before the PC can print another page. Maybe 6 or 7 minutes. It doesn't
matter what you do with the (WinXP) print manager, or power or USB
disconnects, (the failed print is still pending), you can't force another
print before something in the system has decided it has had a good long
rest. It is actually quicker to reboot Windows.


Thanks,


Gareth.

From: Baron on 4 Feb 2010 16:02
Gareth Magennis Inscribed thus:

>
> Hi,
>
> I've had my Kyocera mono laser printer for about 6 years now, though
> its
> only on its second toner cartridge. The problem is it wont reliably
> feed the paper through any more.
>
> I have tried to disassemble but can't get very far.
> There is a short, fat, light grey rubber roller that picks up the
> paper that I have removed (plastic circlip) and cleaned a few times,
> with a can of
> Platenclene and cotton buds. This seems to feed the paper towards two
> long thin rubber rollers that pinch the paper between themselves and
> long shiny
> metal rollers. The paper doesn't get to feed through this second
> roller
> combination. I have cleaned these several times too, but the problem
> remains. All the rubber looks and feels quite squidgy and grippy, not
> hard and shiny at all.
>
> Any hints?
>
> One other thing that is really annoying - when the printer fails, I
> open the paper drawer to remove the folded over sheet that hasn't gone
> any further. I then switch off and switch back on the printer to get
> out of its flashing
> LED paper jam mode. The problem is that it takes a very very long
> time
> before the PC can print another page. Maybe 6 or 7 minutes. It
> doesn't matter what you do with the (WinXP) print manager, or power or
> USB
> disconnects, (the failed print is still pending), you can't force
> another print before something in the system has decided it has had a
> good long
> rest. It is actually quicker to reboot Windows.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Gareth.

A model number would be nice !

--
Best Regards:
Baron.
From: PeterD on 4 Feb 2010 18:26
On Thu, 4 Feb 2010 19:54:46 -0000, "Gareth Magennis"
<sound.service(a)btconnect.com> wrote:

>
>Hi,
>
>I've had my Kyocera mono laser printer for about 6 years now, though its
>only on its second toner cartridge. The problem is it wont reliably feed
>the paper through any more.
>
>I have tried to disassemble but can't get very far.
>There is a short, fat, light grey rubber roller that picks up the paper
>that I have removed (plastic circlip) and cleaned a few times, with a can of
>Platenclene and cotton buds. This seems to feed the paper towards two long
>thin rubber rollers that pinch the paper between themselves and long shiny
>metal rollers. The paper doesn't get to feed through this second roller
>combination. I have cleaned these several times too, but the problem
>remains. All the rubber looks and feels quite squidgy and grippy, not hard
>and shiny at all.
>
>Any hints?

Try (new) different paper. Old paper with high moisture content will
jam more easily. Also different brands may or may not be more prone to
jaming.

>
>One other thing that is really annoying - when the printer fails, I open the
>paper drawer to remove the folded over sheet that hasn't gone any further.
>I then switch off and switch back on the printer to get out of its flashing
>LED paper jam mode. The problem is that it takes a very very long time
>before the PC can print another page. Maybe 6 or 7 minutes. It doesn't
>matter what you do with the (WinXP) print manager, or power or USB
>disconnects, (the failed print is still pending), you can't force another
>print before something in the system has decided it has had a good long
>rest. It is actually quicker to reboot Windows.

Check the owner's manual, you should not have to power off to reset
the error condition. The printer should recover the print job
automatically.

>
>
>Thanks,
>
>
>Gareth.
From: N_Cook on 5 Feb 2010 03:39
Gareth Magennis <sound.service(a)btconnect.com> wrote in message
news:9CFan.267278$Jg5.248(a)newsfe02.ams2...
>
> Hi,
>
> I've had my Kyocera mono laser printer for about 6 years now, though its
> only on its second toner cartridge. The problem is it wont reliably feed
> the paper through any more.
>
> I have tried to disassemble but can't get very far.
> There is a short, fat, light grey rubber roller that picks up the paper
> that I have removed (plastic circlip) and cleaned a few times, with a can
of
> Platenclene and cotton buds. This seems to feed the paper towards two
long
> thin rubber rollers that pinch the paper between themselves and long shiny
> metal rollers. The paper doesn't get to feed through this second roller
> combination. I have cleaned these several times too, but the problem
> remains. All the rubber looks and feels quite squidgy and grippy, not
hard
> and shiny at all.
>
> Any hints?
>
> One other thing that is really annoying - when the printer fails, I open
the
> paper drawer to remove the folded over sheet that hasn't gone any further.
> I then switch off and switch back on the printer to get out of its
flashing
> LED paper jam mode. The problem is that it takes a very very long time
> before the PC can print another page. Maybe 6 or 7 minutes. It doesn't
> matter what you do with the (WinXP) print manager, or power or USB
> disconnects, (the failed print is still pending), you can't force another
> print before something in the system has decided it has had a good long
> rest. It is actually quicker to reboot Windows.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Gareth.
>

Try lightly roughening the rubber with a nail file, sandpaper or the like.


--
Diverse Devices, Southampton, England
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http://diverse.4mg.com/index.htm


From: Gareth Magennis on 5 Feb 2010 05:18

"N_Cook" <diverse(a)tcp.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Gareth Magennis <sound.service(a)btconnect.com> wrote in message
> news:9CFan.267278$Jg5.248(a)newsfe02.ams2...
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've had my Kyocera mono laser printer for about 6 years now, though its
>> only on its second toner cartridge. The problem is it wont reliably feed
>> the paper through any more.
>>
>> I have tried to disassemble but can't get very far.
>> There is a short, fat, light grey rubber roller that picks up the paper
>> that I have removed (plastic circlip) and cleaned a few times, with a can
> of
>> Platenclene and cotton buds. This seems to feed the paper towards two
> long
>> thin rubber rollers that pinch the paper between themselves and long
>> shiny
>> metal rollers. The paper doesn't get to feed through this second roller
>> combination. I have cleaned these several times too, but the problem
>> remains. All the rubber looks and feels quite squidgy and grippy, not
> hard
>> and shiny at all.
>>
>> Any hints?
>>
>> One other thing that is really annoying - when the printer fails, I open
> the
>> paper drawer to remove the folded over sheet that hasn't gone any
>> further.
>> I then switch off and switch back on the printer to get out of its
> flashing
>> LED paper jam mode. The problem is that it takes a very very long time
>> before the PC can print another page. Maybe 6 or 7 minutes. It doesn't
>> matter what you do with the (WinXP) print manager, or power or USB
>> disconnects, (the failed print is still pending), you can't force
>> another
>> print before something in the system has decided it has had a good long
>> rest. It is actually quicker to reboot Windows.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> Gareth.
>>
>
> Try lightly roughening the rubber with a nail file, sandpaper or the like.
>


I've done this a couple of times with fine emery paper and platenclene, the
same technique I have used on DAT and reel to reel pinch rollers for years,
which works really well. Thus I don't think this is wholly a rubber
problem.


Thanks,

Gareth.


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