From: guskz on
On Jun 7, 11:55 am, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote:
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> > On Jun 7, 12:36 am, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote:
> >> "n...(a)bid.nes" <alien8...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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> >> > On Jun 4, 8:58 pm, "gu...(a)hotmail.com" <gu...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> On Jun 4, 8:53 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> >> >> > On 6/4/10 12:53 AM, gu...(a)hotmail.com wrote:
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> >> >> > > LHC did not anticipate the over creation of new particles, I
> >> >> > > did...
>
> >> >> >    What new particles did you predict?
>
> >> >> What over creation of new particles did LHC not anticipate and the
> >> >> reason LHC is shutting and upgrading the collider?
>
> >> >  Sounds like a conspiracy fantasy to me, but not responsive.
>
> >> >  What new particles did you predict?
>
> >> Hmm .. so is finding new particles a failure of the LHC?
>
> >> As I understand they did report a larger quantity of already known and
> >> expected particles than was anticipated.
>
> > Correct, Alas "one" with knowledge, all others complained without
> > knowing the important events at the LHC.
>
> > New, not in terms of new kind:
>
> > ... but new in terms of more particles AND most importantly in terms
> > as being created where as before they didn't exist.
>
> That's not unexpected .. only the quantity of them was.
>
> > Now you have to see them to recognize their creation
>
> They are detected .. that does not mean they need to be directly seen
>
> > can anyone or
> > their insufficiently tiny detectors see into a near-speed-of-light
> > contracted near-singularity.
>
> That's what is done .. that's how they found that there wer more particles
> than expected.  Gees.
>
Comparison using Cars being particles.

They ***angled it****(the collisions) so when the cars crash, the
flying parts (the resultant) go towards the detectors. The cars that
don't crash travel straight on.

The more you bombard the region with colliding cars, the more chance
of multi-car collision pile-up on the highway.

Meaning some of the flying parts, will not travel towards to
detectors, same as Newton's cradle, some will go in the exact opposite
direction, others in Newton's multi-car pile-up craddle (in the
middle) will stay put.

The "cradle" will get bigger and bigger in all directions (length,
height, width) and simultaneously more and more compressed till it
forms a rupture instead of a dent in space_time known as a black
hole.

The car parts going in the opposite directions will go from escape at
first, but then as more cars (and more lanes) are on the highway. They
will gradually also form another cradle in the opposite direction,
these cradles will completely encircle the the main center of
collision/compression and what I call the non-escape horizon.

> > NO,impossible. To them (LHC) it **********remain*********** to be
> > observed as energy, waves overlap and do not collide, where as instead
> > it will be newly created particles COLLIDING = BLACK HOLE.
>
> > REVELATION: (Not my words) And Earth will depart as a scroll when it
> > is rolled-up.
> > Roll-up a paper, now look through it's hole/tube.
>
> You're clearly insane.

From: Inertial on
<guskz(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Jun 7, 11:55 am, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote:
>> <gu...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:5e4c4b6c-b72c-4cb4-9b1a-4d6c3b8965da(a)d8g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Jun 7, 12:36 am, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote:
>> >> "n...(a)bid.nes" <alien8...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:3b26e026-3076-44d5-af18-941ee56f76c3(a)42g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >> > On Jun 4, 8:58 pm, "gu...(a)hotmail.com" <gu...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> On Jun 4, 8:53 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> > On 6/4/10 12:53 AM, gu...(a)hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>> >> >> > > LHC did not anticipate the over creation of new particles, I
>> >> >> > > did...
>>
>> >> >> > What new particles did you predict?
>>
>> >> >> What over creation of new particles did LHC not anticipate and the
>> >> >> reason LHC is shutting and upgrading the collider?
>>
>> >> > Sounds like a conspiracy fantasy to me, but not responsive.
>>
>> >> > What new particles did you predict?
>>
>> >> Hmm .. so is finding new particles a failure of the LHC?
>>
>> >> As I understand they did report a larger quantity of already known and
>> >> expected particles than was anticipated.
>>
>> > Correct, Alas "one" with knowledge, all others complained without
>> > knowing the important events at the LHC.
>>
>> > New, not in terms of new kind:
>>
>> > ... but new in terms of more particles AND most importantly in terms
>> > as being created where as before they didn't exist.
>>
>> That's not unexpected .. only the quantity of them was.
>>
>> > Now you have to see them to recognize their creation
>>
>> They are detected .. that does not mean they need to be directly seen
>>
>> > can anyone or
>> > their insufficiently tiny detectors see into a near-speed-of-light
>> > contracted near-singularity.
>>
>> That's what is done .. that's how they found that there wer more
>> particles
>> than expected. Gees.
>>
> Comparison using Cars being particles.
>
> They ***angled it****(the collisions) so when the cars crash, the
> flying parts (the resultant) go towards the detectors. The cars that
> don't crash travel straight on.

Irrelevant to the analogy

> The more you bombard the region with colliding cars, the more chance
> of multi-car collision pile-up on the highway.

Irrelevant to the analogy

> Meaning some of the flying parts, will not travel towards to
> detectors, same as Newton's cradle, some will go in the exact opposite
> direction, others in Newton's multi-car pile-up craddle (in the
> middle) will stay put.

Irrelevant to the analogy

> The "cradle" will get bigger and bigger in all directions (length,
> height, width) and simultaneously more and more compressed till it
> forms a rupture instead of a dent in space_time known as a black
> hole.

Irrelevant to the analogy

> The car parts going in the opposite directions will go from escape at
> first, but then as more cars (and more lanes) are on the highway. They
> will gradually also form another cradle in the opposite direction,
> these cradles will completely encircle the the main center of
> collision/compression and what I call the non-escape horizon.

Irrelevant to the analogy

Looks like you are being irrelevant.