From: Gerald C.Catling on
Hi Boyd,
At what point and how do I insert -P in the lvm system?
Many thanks to all respondents, and NO I did not have a backup, no drive big
enough to hold all data.
Gerald


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From: Andrew Sackville-West on
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 08:27:32AM +1000, Gerald C.Catling wrote:
> Hi Boyd,
> At what point and how do I insert -P in the lvm system?

man lvchange

> Many thanks to all respondents, and NO I did not have a backup, no drive big
> enough to hold all data.

um... really? I've heard all sorts of reasons for not making backups,
but that is *definitely* not a valid reason. (hint, there is no valid
reason other than "The loss of this data does not matter", which
suggests the questions "then why do you have the data?").

There are many many ways to make take backups beyond having a disk big
enough to hold the data.

.02

A
From: Gerald C.Catling on
On Tuesday, June 15, 2010 10:25:56 am Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 08:27:32AM +1000, Gerald C.Catling wrote:
> > Hi Boyd,
> > At what point and how do I insert -P in the lvm system?
>
> man lvchange
>
> > Many thanks to all respondents, and NO I did not have a backup, no drive
> > big enough to hold all data.
>
> um... really? I've heard all sorts of reasons for not making backups,
> but that is *definitely* not a valid reason. (hint, there is no valid
> reason other than "The loss of this data does not matter", which
> suggests the questions "then why do you have the data?").
>
> There are many many ways to make take backups beyond having a disk big
> enough to hold the data.
>
> .02
>
> A
Hi Andrew,
One good reason is that I am 73 coming on 4 and pensions are not sufficient to
support my buying larger HDD's.
I do appreciate the effort you and others have put into your replies. But it
does seem to me that all the data is lost!
Thanks again
Gerald


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From: Stan Hoeppner on
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. put forth on 6/14/2010 10:45 AM:
> On Monday 14 June 2010 03:11:56 Gerald C.Catling wrote:
>> Hi Guy's,
>> I am not a Debian user but I have seen references to LVM here.
>> I have 3 drives LVM'd to give me 1.3TB of storage space on my server.
>> The first drive of this set has died.
>
> Mostly, when one of your physical volumes is irrecoverably lost, so is any
> logical volume whose logical extents corresponded to one of the lost physical
> extents.

This is why one should only use LVM on top of real hardware or software RAID
or a big SAN LUN. Using LVM for what most in the IT world have typically
called "disk spanning", which has been around for over 2 decades, is a recipe
for trouble in the absence of a good backup/recovery procedure, as the OP has
unfortunately discovered.

If the OP truly needs 1.3 TB of usable space, I'd highly recommend acquiring
two of these:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136592

and mirroring them with mdadm. There are many guides available for
accomplishing this. If 500GB is really all that's needed, one can accomplish
the same goals for half the cost with the 500GB WD Blue from the same etailer
above.

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From: Stan Hoeppner on
Andrew Sackville-West put forth on 6/14/2010 7:25 PM:

> There are many many ways to make take backups beyond having a disk big
> enough to hold the data.
>
> .02

tar and parallel bzip2 would cover most of the journey for the OP, assuming
he's got at minimum a dual core CPU or an older SMP box, available scratch
space, a DVD burner, and enough acumen to figure out how to use these together
to achieve his backup goals (which he should already be forming given his
recent experience).

http://compression.ca/pbzip2/


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