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From: Stephen on 20 May 2010 14:24 On 20 May, 13:38, Jaimie Vandenbergh <jai...(a)sometimes.sessile.org> wrote: > On Thu, 20 May 2010 05:16:59 -0700 (PDT), Stephen <srm...(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > >The latter method if it works would have the benefit of leaving the > >original virtual drive untouched, so should the new drive not work > >properly, then fall back is easy. > > Of course with virtual drives you can just copy'em off anyway, in the > host computer. It's not so worrying as messing with the one physical > disk with your data on. > > Cheers - Jaimie > -- > "The answer to the second question," said Merry, "is that we could get off > in an hour. I have prepared practically everything. There are six ponies > in the stable across the fields." -- J R R Tolkien You can but copying them, or duplicating them takes a significant amount of time.
From: Andy Hewitt on 20 May 2010 15:30 Stephen <srmoll(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 20 May, 09:52, thewildro...(a)me.com (Andy Hewitt) wrote: > > T i m <n...(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote: [..] > There is another way that might work. > > (1) Create new virtual HD of the size required. > (2) Attach new drive to WXP VM as additional drive. > (3) Boot VM from ISO of UBCD for DOS. > (4) Clone old drive to new drive. > > That might be all there is too it, but it might be necessary to use > GPARTED again, depending on how the cloning software works. > > The latter method if it works would have the benefit of leaving the > original virtual drive untouched, so should the new drive not work > properly, then fall back is easy. Well, my first attempt failed. I tried Xxclone (as it's supposed to sort the partition sizing out), which completed a clone, but the resulting copy was unbootable (just gives a 'fatal boot error'). Looks like a fresh install is going to be on the cards I reckon, like the last time I tried cloning a Windows drive. I just installed the new HD into Emily's new Mac, cloned, rebooted, job done. -- Andy Hewitt <http://web.me.com/andrewhewitt1/>
From: T i m on 20 May 2010 16:33 On Thu, 20 May 2010 20:30:46 +0100, thewildrover(a)me.com (Andy Hewitt) wrote: >Well, my first attempt failed. I tried Xxclone (as it's supposed to sort >the partition sizing out), which completed a clone, but the resulting >copy was unbootable (just gives a 'fatal boot error'). > >Looks like a fresh install is going to be on the cards I reckon, like >the last time I tried cloning a Windows drive. I'm due to do a drive upgrade for a mate on Saturday. Ghost his drive over to the new one, reboot, job done. ;-) > >I just installed the new HD into Emily's new Mac, cloned, rebooted, job >done. True, Apple OS's are good from that POV, similar to Linux, pity neither then work sufficiently well to be a solution for me. ;-( Swings and roundabouts I guess. I wonder what the Google OS will be like? FWIW I tried this yesterday. http://www.reactos.org/en/index.html It booted from a LiveCD ok and mostly worked (it's still very unfinished) but whilst I think I can see the point of it (a non Windows OS that can run Windows apps) I'm not sure if that would then also mean it would be vulnerable to the same things (malware etc)? I also reinstalled XP on the Oracle VB on 10.04. The utils found old images left over from previous experiments so I deleted them and started again. It runs so quickly (and easily with the guest stuff / drivers etc) XP was up and running in no time. Still no (working) USB though (ok Sun VB on 9.10 on the same machine). Oh well, I'll keep playing ... ;-) T i m
From: Andy Hewitt on 20 May 2010 17:05 T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote: > On Thu, 20 May 2010 20:30:46 +0100, thewildrover(a)me.com (Andy Hewitt) > wrote: > > I'm due to do a drive upgrade for a mate on Saturday. Ghost his drive > over to the new one, reboot, job done. ;-) :-P I think Ghost would probably do the job, but as this is experiemental stuff, it hardly warrants any expenditure, so free it'll have to be. Might be worth trying CloneZilla. > >I just installed the new HD into Emily's new Mac, cloned, rebooted, job > >done. > > True, Apple OS's are good from that POV, similar to Linux, pity > neither then work sufficiently well to be a solution for me. ;-( > > Swings and roundabouts I guess. > > I wonder what the Google OS will be like? The way their software behaves on my Mac, I'm uninclined to trust anything important with it. I installed Picasa just to see what tools it had, and whether it was worth recommending to the fogies here. Once I'd stopped the darned thing automatically importing all my images (and I mean *all), and then working out that it was the Google Updater that kept waking my MacBook during the night, it's now all been removed. > FWIW I tried this yesterday. > > http://www.reactos.org/en/index.html > > It booted from a LiveCD ok and mostly worked (it's still very > unfinished) but whilst I think I can see the point of it (a non > Windows OS that can run Windows apps) I'm not sure if that would then > also mean it would be vulnerable to the same things (malware etc)? Hmmm, yes, I'm struggling on that one. It's not like you can't get XP cheap enough these days anyway. It'd be interesting to see how it develops though. > I also reinstalled XP on the Oracle VB on 10.04. The utils found old > images left over from previous experiments so I deleted them and > started again. It runs so quickly (and easily with the guest stuff / > drivers etc) XP was up and running in no time. Still no (working) USB > though (ok Sun VB on 9.10 on the same machine). > > Oh well, I'll keep playing ... ;-) Likewise. -- Andy Hewitt <http://web.me.com/andrewhewitt1/>
From: Stephen on 20 May 2010 17:31
On 20 May, 22:05, thewildro...(a)me.com (Andy Hewitt) wrote: > T i m <n...(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote: > > > On Thu, 20 May 2010 20:30:46 +0100, thewildro...(a)me.com (Andy Hewitt) > > wrote: > > > I'm due to do a drive upgrade for a mate on Saturday. Ghost his drive > > over to the new one, reboot, job done. ;-) > > :-P > > I think Ghost would probably do the job, but as this is experiemental > stuff, it hardly warrants any expenditure, so free it'll have to be. > Might be worth trying CloneZilla. > > > >I just installed the new HD into Emily's new Mac, cloned, rebooted, job > > >done. > > > True, Apple OS's are good from that POV, similar to Linux, pity > > neither then work sufficiently well to be a solution for me. ;-( > > > Swings and roundabouts I guess. > > > I wonder what the Google OS will be like? > > The way their software behaves on my Mac, I'm uninclined to trust > anything important with it. I installed Picasa just to see what tools it > had, and whether it was worth recommending to the fogies here. > > Once I'd stopped the darned thing automatically importing all my images > (and I mean *all), and then working out that it was the Google Updater > that kept waking my MacBook during the night, it's now all been removed. > > > FWIW I tried this yesterday. > > >http://www.reactos.org/en/index.html > > > It booted from a LiveCD ok and mostly worked (it's still very > > unfinished) but whilst I think I can see the point of it (a non > > Windows OS that can run Windows apps) I'm not sure if that would then > > also mean it would be vulnerable to the same things (malware etc)? > > Hmmm, yes, I'm struggling on that one. It's not like you can't get XP > cheap enough these days anyway. > > It'd be interesting to see how it develops though. > > > I also reinstalled XP on the Oracle VB on 10.04. The utils found old > > images left over from previous experiments so I deleted them and > > started again. It runs so quickly (and easily with the guest stuff / > > drivers etc) XP was up and running in no time. Still no (working) USB > > though (ok Sun VB on 9.10 on the same machine). > > > Oh well, I'll keep playing ... ;-) > > Likewise. > > -- > Andy Hewitt > <http://web.me.com/andrewhewitt1/> GParted can actually copy partitions from one drive to another as well as resize. Looking back at what I probably did: I knew GParted featured in there, and looking at their website (http:// gparted.sourceforge.net/), I probably created a new virtual drive, added it to the VM, booted from GParted Live CD ISO, copied the partition to the new drive, and the resized it. |