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From: nospam on 2 Nov 2009 23:05 In article <2qbve51o9b2bod0cpou82tvk4lgj4363hi(a)4ax.com>, John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > >>Panasonic with optically-stabilized Leica super-zoom lens is > >>inexpensive, compact and light, excellent for birding. > > > >Chickens, perhaps. Turkeys, ostriches, emus, and caged birds maybe. > >Large birds that you can close enough to touch. > > Standard Optical Zoom "only" goes up 1o 480 mm, > and Extended Optical Zoom goes up to 860 mm, > quite sufficient for most birding, you've got to be kidding. extended optical zoom is nothing more than cropping off most of the pixels leaving just 3 mp. any camera can do that, and it's nothing at all like using a real 860mm lens. > but those ranges are easily extended with a teleconverter > to over 800 mm and over 1400 mm respectively. you can easily use teleconverters with slr lenses and you can crop the slr image for 'extended optical zoom.' > Much better than dSLR. :D wrong.
From: J�rgen Exner on 3 Nov 2009 00:27 John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: >Standard Optical Zoom "only" goes up 1o 480 mm, >and Extended Optical Zoom goes up to 860 mm, What is "extended optical zoom"? An addon-lens? jue
From: nospam on 2 Nov 2009 23:31 In article <qofve5la7lrts5g05rif3jp6ed94cdcr6m(a)4ax.com>, J�rgen Exner <jurgenex(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >Standard Optical Zoom "only" goes up 1o 480 mm, > >and Extended Optical Zoom goes up to 860 mm, > > What is "extended optical zoom"? An addon-lens? cropping.
From: Outing Trolls is FUN! on 3 Nov 2009 00:58 On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 00:05:34 -0400, nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: >In article <2qbve51o9b2bod0cpou82tvk4lgj4363hi(a)4ax.com>, John Navas ><spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > >> >>Panasonic with optically-stabilized Leica super-zoom lens is >> >>inexpensive, compact and light, excellent for birding. >> > >> >Chickens, perhaps. Turkeys, ostriches, emus, and caged birds maybe. >> >Large birds that you can close enough to touch. >> >> Standard Optical Zoom "only" goes up 1o 480 mm, >> and Extended Optical Zoom goes up to 860 mm, >> quite sufficient for most birding, > >you've got to be kidding. > >extended optical zoom is nothing more than cropping off most of the >pixels leaving just 3 mp. any camera can do that, and it's nothing at >all like using a real 860mm lens. > >> but those ranges are easily extended with a teleconverter >> to over 800 mm and over 1400 mm respectively. > >you can easily use teleconverters with slr lenses and you can crop the >slr image for 'extended optical zoom.' > While reducing your useful DSLR lens' aperture by 2X's or more, the time when you really need full aperture is at long focal lengths. To top that off, ALL lenses of those focal-lengths for DSLRs are already crippled by having far smaller apertures than any super-zoom P&S camera. Try again, you psychotic and deceptive know-nothing pretend-photographer DSLR-Troll.
From: Bob Larter on 3 Nov 2009 05:50
John Navas wrote: > On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:57:46 -0500, tony cooper > <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote in > <ebsue594peulupu5l57sp3jca4rquh16ge(a)4ax.com>: > >> On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:16:23 -0800, John Navas >> <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 10:21:01 -0000, "No spam please" >>> <me(a)spamnotwelcome.org> wrote in <hcn098$2m11$1(a)adenine.netfront.net>: >>> >>>> I agree that a 3oomm lens isn't ideal for bird photography. Personally, I'd >>>> love a fast 400mm but the cost, size and weight are beyond me. ... >>> Panasonic with optically-stabilized Leica super-zoom lens is >>> inexpensive, compact and light, excellent for birding. >> Chickens, perhaps. Turkeys, ostriches, emus, and caged birds maybe. >> Large birds that you can close enough to touch. > > Standard Optical Zoom "only" goes up 1o 480 mm, > and Extended Optical Zoom goes ie; 'digital zoom'. *snicker* up to 860 mm, > quite sufficient for most birding, > but those ranges are easily extended with a teleconverter > to over 800 mm and over 1400 mm respectively. > > Much better than dSLR. :D You've obviously never tried to use such a combination for real photography. -- W . | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because \|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est ---^----^--------------------------------------------------------------- |