From: Dudley Hanks on 2 Nov 2009 01:02 "Neil Harrington" <secret(a)illumnati.net> wrote in message news:88ednR2uerbL7HPXnZ2dnUVZ_ridnZ2d(a)giganews.com... > > "nospam" <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in message > news:011120091453097799%nospam(a)nospam.invalid... >> In article <4aOdnX8PTJisR3DXnZ2dnUVZ_gudnZ2d(a)giganews.com>, Neil >> Harrington <secret(a)illumnati.net> wrote: >> >>> > Before you ask - not all airlines permit digital cameras to be used >>> > during >>> > flight and many prohibit them during the take-off and landing phases >>> > of >>> > the flight. I fly with an airline that has a total ban on digital >>> > equipment. It's a good airline (usually on time, plenty of leg room >>> > and so >>> > on) so I'm happy to use a film body. >>> >>> I never heard of such a ban. When I fly I always take a DSLR to take >>> pictures in the airport (I love airports) and a digital compact to take >>> pictures out the airliner window, and sometimes of the cockpit when the >>> door >>> is open. No one has ever objected yet. >> >> all airlines prohibit electronic devices during takeoff/landing, but >> some go further than that. some airlines ban cd/dvd players (can't have >> a laser!) or they require removable batteries to be removed and put in >> checked luggage. so while it may be rare, i wouldn't rule it out. > > That's interesting. Continental -- and the smaller regional airline flying > as Continental Express -- evidently couldn't care less. I'll be using a > different airline this winter, so maybe it will be different. > During most flights I've been on, lately, the flight crew is mainly concerned with electronic devices which utilize a transmitter. For instance, my Trekker GPS device has the software running on an HP IPAQ, which receives GPS info from a separate (bluetooth) GPS device, so I can't use it during the flight. But, I've had no objections to taking a few shots of Mich lying patiently, or of scenic shots out the window. But, during take-offs and landings, requests to turn off all electronics still seem to be the norm. I don't know if all airlines have adopted these practices, but I wouldn't be surprised. Take Care, Dudley
From: Neil Harrington on 2 Nov 2009 01:11 "No spam please" <me(a)spamnotwelcome.org> wrote in message news:hckso8$1pcf$3(a)adenine.netfront.net... > "Neil Harrington" <secret(a)illumnati.net> wrote in message > news:4aOdnX8PTJisR3DXnZ2dnUVZ_gudnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >> >> "No spam please" <me(a)spamnotwelcome.org> wrote in message >> news:hck4q7$d90$2(a)adenine.netfront.net... >>> "Bob Larter" <bobbylarter(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:4aed24d3$1(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au... > W >>> >>> I believe it is also true that any EF lens should work on any Canon EF >>> mount body including their 35mm and APS bodies. >>> Before you ask - not all airlines permit digital cameras to be used >>> during flight and many prohibit them during the take-off and landing >>> phases of the flight. I fly with an airline that has a total ban on >>> digital equipment. It's a good airline (usually on time, plenty of leg >>> room and so on) so I'm happy to use a film body. >> >> I never heard of such a ban. When I fly I always take a DSLR to take >> pictures in the airport (I love airports) and a digital compact to take >> pictures out the airliner window, and sometimes of the cockpit when the >> door is open. No one has ever objected yet. >> > > Hello again Neil. > > I flew several years ago on a Dash 8-400 and was told not to use any > digital > equipment during the take-off and landing phases. More recently I flew on > an > A320 and was told not to use digital equipment at all. > In both cases the cabin crew took my requests courteously and seriously > and > checked with the captain. > > On the Dash 8-400 we were not far away from landing at Birmingham when one > of the cabin crew confiscated a mobile phone from one of the passengers > who'd been trying to use it. > > This may well be different in North America. It seems that whatever the > North American airlines permit to-day so the European airlines will permit > in a few years time. > > Regards, Rog. Rog, I knew about cell phones, because my sister -- who flies quite a lot, including internationally -- had told me they couldn't be used during takeoff or landing (or in flight either, if I understood her correctly). She mentioned that often after landing, as soon as the seat belts light went out you could hear cell phones snapping open all over the cabin. (*She* could hear that I suppose, but I never did, probably because my hearing is very poor.) I can understand prohibiting the use of cell phones. And I can understand prohibiting the use of laptops too, since probably most of them now in use have WiFi. But I'd be surprised if "digital equipment" was taken to include cameras, for this purpose, since as far as I know they don't generate any sort of external RF. I never even thought to ask, just took out my little Coolpix and snapped away through the window. On my last flight in fact, a short hop in a small Embraer 145, I was seated within about a yard of the flight attendant's station and in plain view of her when I was using the camera.
From: Ghett Rheel on 2 Nov 2009 01:20 On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 06:02:41 GMT, "Dudley Hanks" <dhanks(a)blind-apertures.ca> wrote: > >"Neil Harrington" <secret(a)illumnati.net> wrote in message >news:88ednR2uerbL7HPXnZ2dnUVZ_ridnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >> >> "nospam" <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in message >> news:011120091453097799%nospam(a)nospam.invalid... >>> In article <4aOdnX8PTJisR3DXnZ2dnUVZ_gudnZ2d(a)giganews.com>, Neil >>> Harrington <secret(a)illumnati.net> wrote: >>> >>>> > Before you ask - not all airlines permit digital cameras to be used >>>> > during >>>> > flight and many prohibit them during the take-off and landing phases >>>> > of >>>> > the flight. I fly with an airline that has a total ban on digital >>>> > equipment. It's a good airline (usually on time, plenty of leg room >>>> > and so >>>> > on) so I'm happy to use a film body. >>>> >>>> I never heard of such a ban. When I fly I always take a DSLR to take >>>> pictures in the airport (I love airports) and a digital compact to take >>>> pictures out the airliner window, and sometimes of the cockpit when the >>>> door >>>> is open. No one has ever objected yet. >>> >>> all airlines prohibit electronic devices during takeoff/landing, but >>> some go further than that. some airlines ban cd/dvd players (can't have >>> a laser!) or they require removable batteries to be removed and put in >>> checked luggage. so while it may be rare, i wouldn't rule it out. >> >> That's interesting. Continental -- and the smaller regional airline flying >> as Continental Express -- evidently couldn't care less. I'll be using a >> different airline this winter, so maybe it will be different. >> > >During most flights I've been on, lately, the flight crew is mainly >concerned with electronic devices which utilize a transmitter. > >For instance, my Trekker GPS device has the software running on an HP IPAQ, >which receives GPS info from a separate (bluetooth) GPS device, so I can't >use it during the flight. > >But, I've had no objections to taking a few shots of Mich lying patiently, >or of scenic shots out the window. You can't even properly frame nor see your dog that's laying right next to your feet while sitting at a table in the mall. Even when you are using the full-screen of a laptop as your viewfinder. Please explain to everyone how you can compose (with intent) any scene out of a window? Even more funny are your recent posts about photographing and driving cars. I.e. Ford Exec says, "Let's humor the foolish blind man or we'll look bad in PR. We'll just have a full safety-team stand by at thousands of dollars of our cost so we don't look bad." Nothing like using your blindness to manipulate all others to get what you want, eh? At everyone else's expense, of course. Or using gels on flash units. As if that's ever going to help with your compositions that you can't see nor focus on in the first place. <major eye-roll> Grow up, and ... Ghett Rheel
From: Neil Harrington on 2 Nov 2009 01:22 "Dudley Hanks" <dhanks(a)blind-apertures.ca> wrote in message news:5CuHm.51192$PH1.1085(a)edtnps82... > > "Neil Harrington" <secret(a)illumnati.net> wrote in message > news:88ednR2uerbL7HPXnZ2dnUVZ_ridnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >> >> "nospam" <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in message >> news:011120091453097799%nospam(a)nospam.invalid... >>> In article <4aOdnX8PTJisR3DXnZ2dnUVZ_gudnZ2d(a)giganews.com>, Neil >>> Harrington <secret(a)illumnati.net> wrote: >>> >>>> > Before you ask - not all airlines permit digital cameras to be used >>>> > during >>>> > flight and many prohibit them during the take-off and landing phases >>>> > of >>>> > the flight. I fly with an airline that has a total ban on digital >>>> > equipment. It's a good airline (usually on time, plenty of leg room >>>> > and so >>>> > on) so I'm happy to use a film body. >>>> >>>> I never heard of such a ban. When I fly I always take a DSLR to take >>>> pictures in the airport (I love airports) and a digital compact to take >>>> pictures out the airliner window, and sometimes of the cockpit when the >>>> door >>>> is open. No one has ever objected yet. >>> >>> all airlines prohibit electronic devices during takeoff/landing, but >>> some go further than that. some airlines ban cd/dvd players (can't have >>> a laser!) or they require removable batteries to be removed and put in >>> checked luggage. so while it may be rare, i wouldn't rule it out. >> >> That's interesting. Continental -- and the smaller regional airline >> flying as Continental Express -- evidently couldn't care less. I'll be >> using a different airline this winter, so maybe it will be different. >> > > During most flights I've been on, lately, the flight crew is mainly > concerned with electronic devices which utilize a transmitter. Yes, that I can understand. > > For instance, my Trekker GPS device has the software running on an HP > IPAQ, which receives GPS info from a separate (bluetooth) GPS device, so I > can't use it during the flight. > > But, I've had no objections to taking a few shots of Mich lying patiently, > or of scenic shots out the window. > > But, during take-offs and landings, requests to turn off all electronics > still seem to be the norm. > > I don't know if all airlines have adopted these practices, but I wouldn't > be surprised. > > Take Care, > Dudley I can't see how an ordinary digital camera could pose any sort of problem, unless it were one of the very few that have WiFi built in. I wonder how literally "all electronics" is taken. Surely they don't ban the use of digital watches or hearing aids, for example.
From: nospam on 2 Nov 2009 00:22
In article <1YGdnXkO6qtZ6nPXnZ2dnUVZ_hmdnZ2d(a)giganews.com>, Neil Harrington <secret(a)illumnati.net> wrote: > Rog, I knew about cell phones, because my sister -- who flies quite a lot, > including internationally -- had told me they couldn't be used during > takeoff or landing (or in flight either, if I understood her correctly). She > mentioned that often after landing, as soon as the seat belts light went out > you could hear cell phones snapping open all over the cabin. many airlines now allow cellphone use while taxiing to the gate after landing. > (*She* could > hear that I suppose, but I never did, probably because my hearing is very > poor.) I can understand prohibiting the use of cell phones. And I can > understand prohibiting the use of laptops too, since probably most of them > now in use have WiFi. laptops are fine, especially with inflight wifi, however, voip apps are banned. a couple of airlines have considered inflight cellphones using a picocell on the plane. > But I'd be surprised if "digital equipment" was taken to include cameras, > for this purpose, since as far as I know they don't generate any sort of > external RF. it's *extremely* small. |