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From: Craig on 22 May 2010 04:17 On 05/21/2010 08:14 PM, �Q� wrote: > In<news:85ok12FoueU1(a)mid.individual.net>, > Mark Warner<mhwarner.inhibitions(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> This stuff has become so "seemless" that the distinction between >> mounted and unmounted is kind of blurred anymore. Heck, the first >> time I ran it, I opened up the file manager and didn't see them >> anywhere, so I manually created a mount point under /mnt and stuck >> 'em there. Didn't realize it would do it automagically with the >> pointy clickity GUI desktop thingy until I revisted it last night. > > With a livecd, I don't care, but it's annoying with a new install. I > need each USB drive and stick to have the same mountpoint every time > it's mounted. So with a new install, I have to write a udev rule for > each device, recheck the volume labels, create mount points that match > those volume labels, and match them up in fstab. (Can't mount from the > command line without fstab and can't mount consistently in KDE unless > the mountpoints match the labels.) > > While they were making things "seemless" it would be nice if they'd > tossed in some GUI for pairing drives with mountpoints. Whoa... GUI's aside: Don't HAL Unique Device Identifiers or Unique unit ID (UUID) solve this? You know, the string in the fstab like > UUID=15f2abe8-94a6-4b52-bde6-f2191d7ed111 Or is this some other issue? -- -Craig
From: Mark Warner on 22 May 2010 12:36 Craig wrote: > On 05/21/2010 08:14 PM, »Q« wrote: >> In<news:85ok12FoueU1(a)mid.individual.net>, >> Mark Warner<mhwarner.inhibitions(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> This stuff has become so "seemless" that the distinction between >>> mounted and unmounted is kind of blurred anymore. Heck, the first >>> time I ran it, I opened up the file manager and didn't see them >>> anywhere, so I manually created a mount point under /mnt and stuck >>> 'em there. Didn't realize it would do it automagically with the >>> pointy clickity GUI desktop thingy until I revisted it last night. >> >> With a livecd, I don't care, but it's annoying with a new install. I >> need each USB drive and stick to have the same mountpoint every time >> it's mounted. So with a new install, I have to write a udev rule for >> each device, recheck the volume labels, create mount points that match >> those volume labels, and match them up in fstab. (Can't mount from the >> command line without fstab and can't mount consistently in KDE unless >> the mountpoints match the labels.) >> >> While they were making things "seemless" it would be nice if they'd >> tossed in some GUI for pairing drives with mountpoints. > > Whoa... GUI's aside: Don't HAL Unique Device Identifiers or Unique unit > ID (UUID) solve this? You know, the string in the fstab like > >> UUID=15f2abe8-94a6-4b52-bde6-f2191d7ed111 > > Or is this some other issue? It's probably an issue with those bizzarro distros he uses. I mean, c'mon. Gentoo??? Arch??? FFS... -- Mark Warner MEPIS Linux Registered Linux User #415318 ...lose .inhibitions when replying
From: Craig on 22 May 2010 13:25 On 05/22/2010 09:36 AM, Mark Warner wrote: > It's probably an issue with those bizzarro distros he uses. I mean, > c'mon. Gentoo??? Arch??? FFS... You know what they say. > Gentoo: Almost as good as BSD ;-) -- -Craig
From: za kAT on 22 May 2010 15:34 On Sat, 22 May 2010 10:25:35 -0700, Craig wrote: > On 05/22/2010 09:36 AM, Mark Warner wrote: > >> It's probably an issue with those bizzarro distros he uses. I mean, >> c'mon. Gentoo??? Arch??? FFS... > > You know what they say. > >> Gentoo: Almost as good as BSD > > ;-) <VVBG> Just practicing. thank you for luving me. -- zakAT(a)pooh.the.cat - www.zakATsKopterChat.com
From: »Q« on 22 May 2010 21:48
In <news:ht83u4$b4r$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Craig <netburgher(a)REMOVEgmail.com> wrote: > On 05/21/2010 08:14 PM, »Q« wrote: > > In<news:85ok12FoueU1(a)mid.individual.net>, > > Mark Warner<mhwarner.inhibitions(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> This stuff has become so "seemless" that the distinction between > >> mounted and unmounted is kind of blurred anymore. Heck, the first > >> time I ran it, I opened up the file manager and didn't see them > >> anywhere, so I manually created a mount point under /mnt and stuck > >> 'em there. Didn't realize it would do it automagically with the > >> pointy clickity GUI desktop thingy until I revisted it last night. > > > > With a livecd, I don't care, but it's annoying with a new install. > > I need each USB drive and stick to have the same mountpoint every > > time it's mounted. So with a new install, I have to write a udev > > rule for each device, recheck the volume labels, create mount > > points that match those volume labels, and match them up in fstab. > > (Can't mount from the command line without fstab and can't mount > > consistently in KDE unless the mountpoints match the labels.) > > > > While they were making things "seemless" it would be nice if they'd > > tossed in some GUI for pairing drives with mountpoints. > > Whoa... GUI's aside: Don't HAL Unique Device Identifiers or Unique > unit ID (UUID) solve this? You know, the string in the fstab like > > > UUID=15f2abe8-94a6-4b52-bde6-f2191d7ed111 > > Or is this some other issue? That would probably solve at least part of it, but I've kept and tweaked my approach as new KDE versions screwed with it. Next time a new KDE breaks things, maybe I'll try the hal stuff. The real problem is that KDE only wants to use a mountpoint that matches the partition's volume label. If such a mountpoint doesn't exist, KDE will create it. I'm not sure if KDE will even consult fstab; people who don't (u)mount from the cli don't need to bother with fstab entries for some time now. |