From: Justin Piszcz on
Hi,

I may be converting a host to ext4 and was curious, is 0.90 still the only
superblock version for mdadm/raid-1 that you can boot from without having
to create an initrd/etc?

Are there any benefits to using a superblock > 0.90 for a raid-1 boot
volume < 2TB?

Justin.
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From: Michael Evans on
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Justin Piszcz <jpiszcz(a)lucidpixels.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I may be converting a host to ext4 and was curious, is 0.90 still the only
> superblock version for mdadm/raid-1 that you can boot from without having to
> create an initrd/etc?
>
> Are there any benefits to using a superblock > 0.90 for a raid-1 boot volume
> < 2TB?
>
> Justin.
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You need the superblock at the end of the partition: If you read the
manual that is clearly either version 0.90 OR 1.0 (NOT 1.1 and also
NOT 1.2; those use the same superblock layout but different
locations).
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From: martin f krafft on
also sprach Justin Piszcz <jpiszcz(a)lucidpixels.com> [2010.02.12.1200 +1300]:
> I may be converting a host to ext4 and was curious, is 0.90 still the
> only superblock version for mdadm/raid-1 that you can boot from
> without having to create an initrd/etc?
>
> Are there any benefits to using a superblock > 0.90 for a raid-1 boot
> volume < 2TB?

FYI: http://bugs.debian.org/492897

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From: H. Peter Anvin on
On 02/11/2010 05:52 PM, Michael Evans wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Justin Piszcz <jpiszcz(a)lucidpixels.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I may be converting a host to ext4 and was curious, is 0.90 still the only
>> superblock version for mdadm/raid-1 that you can boot from without having to
>> create an initrd/etc?
>>
>> Are there any benefits to using a superblock > 0.90 for a raid-1 boot volume
>> < 2TB?
>>
>> Justin.
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>
> You need the superblock at the end of the partition: If you read the
> manual that is clearly either version 0.90 OR 1.0 (NOT 1.1 and also
> NOT 1.2; those use the same superblock layout but different
> locations).

0.9 has the *serious* problem that it is hard to distinguish a whole-volume

However, apparently mdadm recently switched to a 1.1 default. I
strongly urge Neil to change that to either 1.0 and 1.2, as I have
started to get complaints from users that they have made RAID volumes
with newer mdadm which apparently default to 1.1, and then want to boot
from them (without playing MBR games like Grub does.) I have to tell
them that they have to regenerate their disks -- the superblock occupies
the boot sector and there is nothing I can do about it. It's the same
pathology XFS has.

-hpa

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From: Justin Piszcz on


On Sat, 13 Feb 2010, H. Peter Anvin wrote:

> On 02/11/2010 05:52 PM, Michael Evans wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Justin Piszcz <jpiszcz(a)lucidpixels.com> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I may be converting a host to ext4 and was curious, is 0.90 still the only
>>> superblock version for mdadm/raid-1 that you can boot from without having to
>>> create an initrd/etc?
>>>
>>> Are there any benefits to using a superblock > 0.90 for a raid-1 boot volume
>>> < 2TB?
>>>
>>> Justin.
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>>> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-raid" in
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>>>
>>
>> You need the superblock at the end of the partition: If you read the
>> manual that is clearly either version 0.90 OR 1.0 (NOT 1.1 and also
>> NOT 1.2; those use the same superblock layout but different
>> locations).
>
> 0.9 has the *serious* problem that it is hard to distinguish a whole-volume
>
> However, apparently mdadm recently switched to a 1.1 default. I
> strongly urge Neil to change that to either 1.0 and 1.2, as I have
> started to get complaints from users that they have made RAID volumes
> with newer mdadm which apparently default to 1.1, and then want to boot
> from them (without playing MBR games like Grub does.) I have to tell
> them that they have to regenerate their disks -- the superblock occupies
> the boot sector and there is nothing I can do about it. It's the same
> pathology XFS has.
>
> -hpa
>

My original question was does the newer superblock do anything special or
offer new features *BESIDES* the quicker resync?

Justin.
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