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From: Alain Picard on 11 Sep 2009 04:11
Slobodan Blazeski <slobodan.blazeski(a)gmail.com> writes:

> On Sep 10, 1:35 pm, Kenneth Tilton <kentil...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> Espen Vestre wrote:
>>
>> I was going to point out that, no, a mainstream company had acquired a
>> start-up who used Lisp, but such deals usually lead to ads for Java
>> programmers who can read Lisp.

> I.E. Human compilers.

I'm pleased (and amused) that this job offer is causing such a thread,
so let me throw in a few more tidbits:

* A mainstream company did, indeed, acquire a startup.

* Your competitive advantage probably remains secure

* The code is _not_ being rewritten in Java

* The jobs are genuine; the applicants will be in front of Lispworks
and emacs 8 hours a day.

* The people the applicant will be working with are, in my opinion,
very nice and pretty smart. :-)

Back to the amusing speculations...
From: Slobodan Blazeski on 11 Sep 2009 07:42
On Sep 11, 10:11 am, Alain Picard <Dr.Alain.Pic...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Slobodan Blazeski <slobodan.blaze...(a)gmail.com> writes:
> > On Sep 10, 1:35 pm, Kenneth Tilton <kentil...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Espen Vestre wrote:
>
> >> I was going to point out that, no, a mainstream company had acquired a
> >> start-up who used Lisp, but such deals usually lead to ads for Java
> >> programmers who can read Lisp.
> > I.E. Human compilers.
>
> I'm pleased (and amused) that this job offer is causing such a thread,
> so let me throw in a few more tidbits:
>
>  * A mainstream company did, indeed, acquire a startup.

Congratulations love to hear lisp success stories.
>
>  * Your competitive advantage probably remains secure
You bet. Anyway that was intended as a joke :)
>
>  * The code is _not_ being rewritten in Java
>
>  * The jobs are genuine; the applicants will be in front of Lispworks
>    and emacs 8 hours a day.
>
>  * The people the applicant will be working with are, in my opinion,
>    very nice and pretty smart.  :-)

Sounds great where should I apply? Damn it, its in Sydney. Perhaps
another time. Anyway don't be shy posting more success stories.


cheers
Bobi
http://www.linkedin.com/in/slobodanblazeski
>
> Back to the amusing speculations...



From: namekuseijin on 11 Sep 2009 14:10
great! Pity too far away! (and not like I'm proficient in raw CL rather
than Scheme) :P
From: sirpi on 13 Sep 2009 05:21
I was just wondering how many lines of Lisp code you usually write in
8 hours. The purpose is to evaluate the
effort of working as a programmer.


Nowaday I am a taxi-driver, but I would like to work as a programmer.
I have a Ph.D. in Math and Computer
Science, I can learn very quickly, but I think I would not be able to
stay 8 hours in an office.

So my question is for Lispers, how many lines of code you write in
one day
(normal distribution, average and standard deviation, sample over a
month or a six month period).

There is another recent post in planet lisp about IA and Lisp. So
the horizon look great today.

Well, I will take my car and a map and make some photograph that is:

(mapcar #'take-some-photograph *is-a-beautiful-day*)
From: Slobodan Blazeski on 13 Sep 2009 07:00
On Sep 13, 11:21 am, sirpi <sirpi...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> I was just wondering how many lines of Lisp code you usually  write in
> 8 hours.  The purpose is to evaluate the
> effort of working as a programmer.
>
>  So my question is for Lispers, how many lines of code you write in
> one day
> (normal distribution, average and standard deviation, sample over a
> month or a six month period).


You're question sounds like managerial one, and especially from a
manager who never programmed. It depends on the problem you're working
on and the type of programmer you are. The better you know the problem
and the language the less code you have to write. And if you invest in
abstraction like DSLs you might be able to do wonders in few lines
that need a lot of man/years of coding for someone just starting with
raw lisp in that domain. Some programmers highly value refactoring and
proud themselves for having a negative line count, i.e. removing lines
of code instead of adding them. Also different programmers have
different styles, some prefer terseness the other prefer efficiency
etc. So your statistics is pretty much meaningless.

Bobi
http://www.linkedin.com/in/slobodanblazeski
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