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From: Lew on 14 Jun 2010 14:43 Arved Sandstrom writes: >> The thread _did_ diverge, but let's bring it back on track. In >> addition, I think the original discussion also included the OS's that >> J2EE developers might be coding on - it's my hypothesis that the OS >> that developers write J2EE apps on is very often Windows. > ilan wrote: > Well although its not really representative; we could poll here. > > At my day job I write for a SAP J2EE that is running on Solaris. > Which utterly and completely misses or misstates Arved's point. You don't say whether you write the app on Solaris, only that you deploy on it. I've written many Java (EE) apps that run on Solaris, but I wrote them largely on Windows, just as Arved surmises. On what OS do you write the code for that SAP installation? If you do take a poll, at least take a poll on the same question. -- Lew
From: ilan on 14 Jun 2010 14:49 Lew <lew(a)lewscanon.com> writes: > Arved Sandstrom writes: >>> The thread _did_ diverge, but let's bring it back on track. In >>> addition, I think the original discussion also included the OS's that >>> J2EE developers might be coding on - it's my hypothesis that the OS >>> that developers write J2EE apps on is very often Windows. >> > > ilan wrote: >> Well although its not really representative; we could poll here. >> >> At my day job I write for a SAP J2EE that is running on Solaris. >> > > Which utterly and completely misses or misstates Arved's point. You > don't say whether you write the app on Solaris, only that you deploy > on it. I've written many Java (EE) apps that run on Solaris, but I > wrote them largely on Windows, just as Arved surmises. > > On what OS do you write the code for that SAP installation? > > If you do take a poll, at least take a poll on the same question. Good point. But in my scenario it stays the same. The development, qa and production environments are all Solaris in my environment. -- ilAn
From: Arved Sandstrom on 14 Jun 2010 18:43 ilan wrote: > Lew <lew(a)lewscanon.com> writes: > >> Arved Sandstrom writes: >>>> The thread _did_ diverge, but let's bring it back on track. In >>>> addition, I think the original discussion also included the OS's that >>>> J2EE developers might be coding on - it's my hypothesis that the OS >>>> that developers write J2EE apps on is very often Windows. >> ilan wrote: >>> Well although its not really representative; we could poll here. >>> >>> At my day job I write for a SAP J2EE that is running on Solaris. >>> >> Which utterly and completely misses or misstates Arved's point. You >> don't say whether you write the app on Solaris, only that you deploy >> on it. I've written many Java (EE) apps that run on Solaris, but I >> wrote them largely on Windows, just as Arved surmises. >> >> On what OS do you write the code for that SAP installation? >> >> If you do take a poll, at least take a poll on the same question. > > Good point. > > But in my scenario it stays the same. > > The development, qa and production environments are all Solaris in my > environment. Fair enough. But I'll wager that your situation is uncommon. Up until not so many years ago, when VMs became inexpensive and common, and Linux and Mac OS X truly became fully-fledged OS's (that is, they had loads of useful applications), it was still more convenient for most software developers to do their tasks on Windows, because only Windows could do *some* of them. It's still common enough for most shops to have some apps that work only on Windows, that the easiest and frequently cheapest solution is to equip most folks with...Windows. AHS -- Software sucks because users demand it to. -- Nathan Myhrvold
From: Arne Vajhøj on 14 Jun 2010 20:09 On 14-06-2010 07:24, Martin Gregorie wrote: > On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 23:19:54 +0000, Arved Sandstrom wrote: >> In addition, >> I think the original discussion also included the OS's that J2EE >> developers might be coding on - it's my hypothesis that the OS that >> developers write J2EE apps on is very often Windows. >> > I think that's very likely. I've certainly done development using > IntelliJ on XP for deployment on RHEL. This particular project ran both > developmental and deployed code against Oracle on RHEL. Yep. Windows is corporate standard in many huge companies. Arne
From: Arne Vajhøj on 14 Jun 2010 22:01
On 14-06-2010 14:49, ilan wrote: > Lew<lew(a)lewscanon.com> writes: > >> Arved Sandstrom writes: >>>> The thread _did_ diverge, but let's bring it back on track. In >>>> addition, I think the original discussion also included the OS's that >>>> J2EE developers might be coding on - it's my hypothesis that the OS >>>> that developers write J2EE apps on is very often Windows. >>> >> >> ilan wrote: >>> Well although its not really representative; we could poll here. >>> >>> At my day job I write for a SAP J2EE that is running on Solaris. >>> >> >> Which utterly and completely misses or misstates Arved's point. You >> don't say whether you write the app on Solaris, only that you deploy >> on it. I've written many Java (EE) apps that run on Solaris, but I >> wrote them largely on Windows, just as Arved surmises. >> >> On what OS do you write the code for that SAP installation? >> >> If you do take a poll, at least take a poll on the same question. > > Good point. > > But in my scenario it stays the same. > > The development, qa and production environments are all Solaris in my > environment. That is a rather rare combo. A very recent Eclipse survey showed development platform: Windows 58.3% Linux 32.7% MacOS X 7.9% Other 1.1% for Eclipse users (since I don't think recent versions of Eclipse are available for Solaris, then it may be slightly skewed for Other). And primary deployment platform: Linux 46% Windows 41% Solaris 3% Other Unix 3% MacOS X 2% Embedded 2% Other 3% which matches pretty well the numbers that I referred to previously: Windows 57% Redhat & Centos 35% Suse 12% Other Linux 16% Solaris 18% AIX 14% HP-UX 5% Other 7% (that was all deployment platform so it adds up to more than 100%) Arne |