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From: Walter Banks on 10 Jun 2010 16:45 Paul Keinanen wrote: > On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:10:14 +0100, John Devereux > <john(a)devereux.me.uk> wrote: > > >Perhaps there are special circumstances, like when lives or -- (gasp) -- > >actual *money* is at stake :) > > In such situations, double or triple redundant systems are typically > used, which allows much more sanity cross checks than a simple > watchdog. Redundant sometimes, but redundancy has its drawbacks as well look at the very first flight of the space shuttle. Triple redundancy did not prevent a failure for the the processors to boot up and communicate. In automotive the starting transient that crashes one processor probably would crash two or three. There are alternatives for reliable systems, redundancy tends to find common cause in a system. For processors error correcting registers and memory help. Software consistency checks help. Regards, Walter.. -- Walter Banks Byte Craft Limited http://www.bytecraft.com
From: Paul Keinanen on 11 Jun 2010 02:32 On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:45:26 -0400, Walter Banks <walter(a)bytecraft.com> wrote: > > >Paul Keinanen wrote: > >> On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:10:14 +0100, John Devereux >> <john(a)devereux.me.uk> wrote: >> >> >Perhaps there are special circumstances, like when lives or -- (gasp) -- >> >actual *money* is at stake :) >> >> In such situations, double or triple redundant systems are typically >> used, which allows much more sanity cross checks than a simple >> watchdog. > >Redundant sometimes, but redundancy has its drawbacks as well >look at the very first flight of the space shuttle. Triple redundancy >did not prevent a failure for the the processors to boot up and >communicate. It worked perfectly, preventing the launch in a faulty vehicle. >In automotive the starting transient that crashes one processor >probably would crash two or three. If this prevents operating such faulty vehicle, then fine.
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