From: mook Johnson on
On 1/30/2010 8:24 AM, Nemo wrote:
> Keep in mind the C varies with applied V across the tranzorb. They
> sometimes quote C at the breakdown voltage, where it's much lower.

these are rated at 0 volts. usually gets lower with higher voltage.
From: mook Johnson on
On 1/29/2010 2:21 AM, Archimedes' Lever wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 21:52:20 -0600, mook Johnson<mook(a)mook.net> wrote:
>
>> On 1/26/2010 8:34 PM, Joerg wrote:
>>> mook johnson wrote:
>>>> Gents.
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking for a tranzorb or equivilent that can discharge a 45mH
>>>> inductor with 1A DC flowing through it if one end gets disconnected.
>>>> This tranzorb must have less than 100pF of capacitance. The tranzorb
>>>> will be in parallel with the inductor.
>>>>
>>>> any thoughts? All if the 1.5KE like parts have 800pF and up.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Not sure what you want to do but if the inductor is pulled down, held
>>> and then flies back until it leans into the TVS maybe the trick in
>>> figure 1b works:
>>>
>>> http://www.microsemi.com/micnotes/122.pdf
>>>
>>> But keep in mind that TVS devices are meant to snuff the occasional
>>> spike. Regular load dumps out of 45mH might be responded to with a loud
>>> *PHOOMP* and some debris flying about. The last time I did a
>>> (transistorized) load dump for a roughly 20mH coil at a few amps the
>>> dump part needed to be heat-sinked. Without that it would have soldered
>>> itself right off the board.
>>>
>>
>> Found some of the SA18 parts at digikey. Looks like the trick they use
>> is to put a diode junction in series with the high capacitance zener
>> junction. As long as the zener is not conducting the diode junction
>> looks like a small capacitance in series with a large one so the net is
>> a small capacitance.
>>
>> The downside of course is you now need two devices do bidirectional.
>>
>> no free lunch again but this will work since I only need to do this in
>> one place. :)
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the input guys.
>>
>>
>>
> You can buy the dual device in a single package.


Do you have a part number handy?

From: Joerg on
mook Johnson wrote:
> On 1/29/2010 4:22 PM, Joerg wrote:
>> mook Johnson wrote:
>>> On 1/26/2010 8:34 PM, Joerg wrote:
>>>> mook johnson wrote:
>>>>> Gents.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm looking for a tranzorb or equivilent that can discharge a 45mH
>>>>> inductor with 1A DC flowing through it if one end gets disconnected.
>>>>> This tranzorb must have less than 100pF of capacitance. The tranzorb
>>>>> will be in parallel with the inductor.
>>>>>
>>>>> any thoughts? All if the 1.5KE like parts have 800pF and up.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not sure what you want to do but if the inductor is pulled down, held
>>>> and then flies back until it leans into the TVS maybe the trick in
>>>> figure 1b works:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.microsemi.com/micnotes/122.pdf
>>>>
>>>> But keep in mind that TVS devices are meant to snuff the occasional
>>>> spike. Regular load dumps out of 45mH might be responded to with a loud
>>>> *PHOOMP* and some debris flying about. The last time I did a
>>>> (transistorized) load dump for a roughly 20mH coil at a few amps the
>>>> dump part needed to be heat-sinked. Without that it would have soldered
>>>> itself right off the board.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Found some of the SA18 parts at digikey. Looks like the trick they use
>>> is to put a diode junction in series with the high capacitance zener
>>> junction. As long as the zener is not conducting the diode junction
>>> looks like a small capacitance in series with a large one so the net
>>> is a small capacitance.
>>>
>>
>> The capacitance looks huge, figure 4:
>>
>> http://www.fairchildsemi.com/ds/SA%2FSA170CA.pdf
>>
>> [...]
>>
>
>
> My bad its a SAC15 from litelfuse.
>

Ah, with diode built in. But you've got to use two per line, or a diode
in the other direction if unipolar.

http://www.littelfuse.com/data/en/Data_Sheets/Littelfuse_TVS-Diodes_SAC.pdf

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