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From: Paul on 8 Mar 2010 15:23 On Mar 8, 10:02 am, Ecnerwal <MyNameForw...(a)ReplaceWithMyVices.Com.invalid> wrote: > Paul <energymo...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > You know, actually, IMO this company is real bad news. > > If it smells like a rat, it probably is. If it sounds to good to be > true, it probably is. Basic rules of commerce and internet commerce. > > Someone with low but all positive feedback is selling the one you want > for $470 on sleazebay. Then again, it's from Hong Kong - but if you get > your complaint in on time if they screw you, you should be able to get > your money back, unlike D from BC. > > OTOH, depending what exactly you have in mind with "low end scope", used > can work remarkably well, and at an attractive price point. You may be > thinking of low-end that's not quite low-enough end for that to work out > for you, I don't know. My "low end" scope has no samples at all - it's > analog, major brand, and aging well while remaining useful - and set me > back a whole $100 with 10X probes. > > I'm far more confident about it being in working condition 10 years from > now than I would be betting on a new China scope, but that's my opinion. > > A great deal depends on what you are going to do with it. Several Tek > 2645's have gone at about your price point recently on sleazebay, for > instance - analog, yes, but 4 channels at 400MHz is a pretty nice "low > end scope", and it's Tek, not Rigol, quality - if you believe that Tek > makes quality scopes, or used to. For $60 over your price point you can > (at the moment) get a Tek TDS340A, "tested and working" from a > high-feedback domestic seller that will do 2Gs/s (and quaintly has a > floppy drive - how nice ;-( ) Hi, Did you mean another scope because the Tek TDS340A is about a $2500 scope. The Rigol DS 1052E is a $500 scope. I'd love to get a 4 channel 2.5Gs/s 400MHz scope, but they're too expensive.
From: Baron on 8 Mar 2010 16:12 Paul Inscribed thus: > On Mar 8, 8:43 am, Paul <energymo...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On Mar 8, 8:34 am, Paul <energymo...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> > Hi, >> >> > I'm searching for low end scopes such as Rigol, Atten, Owon, etc. >> > So far I'm sold on the Rigol DS 1052E. I was about to buy it at >> > dealexcel.com because they're selling this $600 scope for $390. On >> > their website they have a bunch of email addresses (e.g., >> > adm...(a)yahoo.com), which seemed unusual to me because they are the >> > admin email addresses to yahoo and hotmail. As expected all of >> > these email addresses bounced back! >> >> > Their website traffic rating shown by Alexa.com is almost >> > nonexistent. IOW, they don't have hardly any traffic. I found a few >> > posts about them at various forums, but they immediately seemed odd >> > because the post sounded like a plug from the owner of >> > dealexcel.com because the post gave two of their website addresses. >> > That seemed a bit unlikely that a buyer would know about their >> > multiple websites. >> >> > 1) Does anyone know anything about this company. >> >> > 2) Any recommendations on a low end scope. I like the Rigol DS >> > 1052E because it has 1 mega points storage memory, 1 Gsps. Also >> > it's more popular than the others such as Atten. IOW, a lot of >> > people discussing it, people have successfully update the firmware. >> > The biggest comes from a EE at youtube, Dave Jones, who used to >> > design scopes can't say enough about how great this scope. Dave >> > opened the scope up and was impressed at the quality parts used. >> > Here's one of his videos, >> >> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO5iGwHpmHc >> >> > The only bad thing Dave found was Rigol is over clocking the scope. >> >> I should add that on their contact us page they have a gmail email >> address that seems legit. So I'll try that. Still it's odd they don't >> show an email address from their own website; e.g., >> sa...(a)dealexcel.com >> >> Regards, >> Paul > > > > > You know, actually, IMO this company is real bad news. I've decided to > stay away from them regardless. They get practically no traffic-- > reference, alexa.com. They place invalid and to be honest email > addresses that they IMO they could get sued for claiming (e.g., yahoo > & hotmail admin emails). They don't even have their own email address. > They provide no phone numbers on their contact page. And the price is > suspiciously low. > > Regards, > Paul Caveat Emptor ! -- Best Regards: Baron.
From: Ecnerwal on 8 Mar 2010 19:51 In article <00f634e7-92dc-45a8-98b5-a72f728bb60c(a)u5g2000prd.googlegroups.com>, Paul <energymover(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Mar 8, 10:02�am, Ecnerwal > <MyNameForw...(a)ReplaceWithMyVices.Com.invalid> wrote: > > �Paul <energymo...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > You know, actually, IMO this company is real bad news. > > > > If it smells like a rat, it probably is. If it sounds to good to be > > true, it probably is. Basic rules of commerce and internet commerce. > > > > Someone with low but all positive feedback is selling the one you want > > for $470 on sleazebay. Then again, it's from Hong Kong - but if you get > > your complaint in on time if they screw you, you should be able to get > > your money back, unlike D from BC. > > > > OTOH, depending what exactly you have in mind with "low end scope", used > > can work remarkably well, and at an attractive price point. You may be > > thinking of low-end that's not quite low-enough end for that to work out > > for you, I don't know. My "low end" scope has no samples at all - it's > > analog, major brand, and aging well while remaining useful - and set me > > back a whole $100 with 10X probes. > > > > I'm far more confident about it being in working condition 10 years from > > now than I would be betting on a new China scope, but that's my opinion. > > > > A great deal depends on what you are going to do with it. Several Tek > > 2645's have gone at about your price point recently on sleazebay, for > > instance - analog, yes, but 4 channels at 400MHz is a pretty nice "low > > end scope", and it's Tek, not Rigol, quality - if you believe that Tek > > makes quality scopes, or used to. For $60 over your price point you can > > (at the moment) get a Tek TDS340A, "tested and working" from a > > high-feedback domestic seller that will do 2Gs/s (and quaintly has a > > floppy drive - how nice ;-( �) > > > > Hi, > > Did you mean another scope because the Tek TDS340A is about a $2500 > scope. The Rigol DS 1052E is a $500 scope. I'd love to get a 4 > channel 2.5Gs/s 400MHz scope, but they're too expensive. I meant what I typed. Not new, used. Price was as mentioned and "buy it now" this afternoon - can't say if it's been bought since. If you can't find it on sleazebay you're not looking terribly hard. Try completed auctions if it doesn't show up on current auctions anymore. -- Cats, coffee, chocolate...vices to live by
From: Paul on 9 Mar 2010 01:05 On Mar 8, 4:51 pm, Ecnerwal <MyNameForw...(a)ReplaceWithMyVices.Com.invalid> wrote: > In article > <00f634e7-92dc-45a8-98b5-a72f728bb...(a)u5g2000prd.googlegroups.com>, > > > > Paul <energymo...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On Mar 8, 10:02 am, Ecnerwal > > <MyNameForw...(a)ReplaceWithMyVices.Com.invalid> wrote: > > > Paul <energymo...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > You know, actually, IMO this company is real bad news. > > > > If it smells like a rat, it probably is. If it sounds to good to be > > > true, it probably is. Basic rules of commerce and internet commerce. > > > > Someone with low but all positive feedback is selling the one you want > > > for $470 on sleazebay. Then again, it's from Hong Kong - but if you get > > > your complaint in on time if they screw you, you should be able to get > > > your money back, unlike D from BC. > > > > OTOH, depending what exactly you have in mind with "low end scope", used > > > can work remarkably well, and at an attractive price point. You may be > > > thinking of low-end that's not quite low-enough end for that to work out > > > for you, I don't know. My "low end" scope has no samples at all - it's > > > analog, major brand, and aging well while remaining useful - and set me > > > back a whole $100 with 10X probes. > > > > I'm far more confident about it being in working condition 10 years from > > > now than I would be betting on a new China scope, but that's my opinion. > > > > A great deal depends on what you are going to do with it. Several Tek > > > 2645's have gone at about your price point recently on sleazebay, for > > > instance - analog, yes, but 4 channels at 400MHz is a pretty nice "low > > > end scope", and it's Tek, not Rigol, quality - if you believe that Tek > > > makes quality scopes, or used to. For $60 over your price point you can > > > (at the moment) get a Tek TDS340A, "tested and working" from a > > > high-feedback domestic seller that will do 2Gs/s (and quaintly has a > > > floppy drive - how nice ;-( ) > > > Hi, > > > Did you mean another scope because the Tek TDS340A is about a $2500 > > scope. The Rigol DS 1052E is a $500 scope. I'd love to get a 4 > > channel 2.5Gs/s 400MHz scope, but they're too expensive. > > I meant what I typed. Not new, used. Price was as mentioned and "buy it > now" this afternoon - can't say if it's been bought since. If you can't > find it on sleazebay you're not looking terribly hard. Try completed > auctions if it doesn't show up on current auctions anymore. > I don't know what you mean by sleazebay. That looks like a porno site. If you mean ebay, then yes, I looked there right after your 1st post and didn't see any TDS340A near the price you were talking about.
From: T on 10 Mar 2010 02:54
In article <ugbap5tl2srovsc6l29h2nb5u9l6tjrq4v(a)4ax.com>, bbew.ar(a)mapson.nozirev.ten says... > > On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 08:34:17 -0800 (PST), Paul <energymover(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > >Hi, > > > >I'm searching for low end scopes such as Rigol, Atten, Owon, etc. So > >far I'm sold on the Rigol DS 1052E. I was about to buy it at > >dealexcel.com because they're selling this $600 scope for $390. On > >their website they have a bunch of email addresses (e.g., > >admin2(a)yahoo.com), which seemed unusual to me because they are the > >admin email addresses to yahoo and hotmail. As expected all of these > >email addresses bounced back! > > > >Their website traffic rating shown by Alexa.com is almost nonexistent. > >IOW, they don?t have hardly any traffic. I found a few posts about > >them at various forums, but they immediately seemed odd because the > >post sounded like a plug from the owner of dealexcel.com because the > >post gave two of their website addresses. That seemed a bit unlikely > >that a buyer would know about their multiple websites. > > > >1) Does anyone know anything about this company. > > Not I. For one data point, though, I've done a lot of personal purchases > over at http://www.tequipment.net/index.html and have never had any > problems. And if you only need 1MHz: http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=9625 For $99 I'm really considering buying one just for low frequency stuff. |