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From: Karl E. Peterson on 17 Dec 2009 19:49 A lot of the focus of the Copenhagen negotiations has been on the expectations for what the climate will look like at the end of this century. It's a convenient milestone, and it gives people something that they can wrap their heads around, but it's a very arbitrary and unscientific time point, as some of the impacts of current carbon emissions may take centuries to fully register. This is especially true when it comes to sea level; current estimates of a rise of about a third of a meter by the end of the century seem manageable, but it's not as if the oceans will stabilize on January 1, 2100. A paper published in Nature on Wednesday now provides some sense of just how badly off that estimate may be, by showing that a period with similar temperatures saw ocean levels that were probably over six meters above the ones we currently experience. http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2009/12/low-end-temp-predictions-may-bring-6-meter-ocean-level-rise.ars Wow... And that's from a change of 1-2�C... -- ..NET: It's About Trust! http://vfred.mvps.org
From: Karl E. Peterson on 17 Dec 2009 19:57 Karl E. Peterson wrote on 12/17/2009 : > A lot of the focus of the Copenhagen negotiations has been on the > expectations for what the climate will look like at the end of this century. > It's a convenient milestone, and it gives people something that they can wrap > their heads around, but it's a very arbitrary and unscientific time point, as > some of the impacts of current carbon emissions may take centuries to fully > register. This is especially true when it comes to sea level; current > estimates of a rise of about a third of a meter by the end of the century > seem manageable, but it's not as if the oceans will stabilize on January 1, > 2100. A paper published in Nature on Wednesday now provides some sense of > just how badly off that estimate may be, by showing that a period with > similar temperatures saw ocean levels that were probably over six meters > above the ones we currently experience. > > http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2009/12/low-end-temp-predictions-may-bring-6-meter-ocean-level-rise.ars > > Wow... And that's from a change of 1-2�C... Wow indeed! Not only the wrong group, but the wrong server entirely! Apologies to the group... :-( -- ..NET: It's About Trust! http://vfred.mvps.org
From: Gordon Bentley-Mix on 17 Dec 2009 21:12 Been drinking the red Kool-Aid again Karl? <g> -- Cheers! Gordon Bentley-Mix Word MVP "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> wrote in message news:e6mnm03fKHA.5500(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Karl E. Peterson wrote on 12/17/2009 : >> A lot of the focus of the Copenhagen negotiations has been on the >> expectations for what the climate will look like at the end of this >> century. It's a convenient milestone, and it gives people something that >> they can wrap their heads around, but it's a very arbitrary and >> unscientific time point, as some of the impacts of current carbon >> emissions may take centuries to fully register. This is especially true >> when it comes to sea level; current estimates of a rise of about a third >> of a meter by the end of the century seem manageable, but it's not as if >> the oceans will stabilize on January 1, 2100. A paper published in Nature >> on Wednesday now provides some sense of just how badly off that estimate >> may be, by showing that a period with similar temperatures saw ocean >> levels that were probably over six meters above the ones we currently >> experience. >> >> http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2009/12/low-end-temp-predictions-may-bring-6-meter-ocean-level-rise.ars >> >> Wow... And that's from a change of 1-2�C... > > Wow indeed! Not only the wrong group, but the wrong server entirely! > Apologies to the group... :-( > > -- > .NET: It's About Trust! > http://vfred.mvps.org > >
From: Karl E. Peterson on 17 Dec 2009 21:38 Gordon Bentley-Mix formulated the question : > Been drinking the red Kool-Aid again Karl? <g> <chuckle> I think it was the blue stuff, actually... <bg> -- ..NET: It's About Trust! http://vfred.mvps.org
From: Vagabond on 21 Dec 2009 10:51
That's all a bit over my head.... What a comfort it is to know that God has his hand over all these things we worry ourselves sick about! Do we really think that He made some fundamental calculation errors when He created the world?? If He chooses to drown the world, as He has done once already, as a judgement for our ungodliness, no amount of billions of dollars will make any difference. Just make sure you know where you will spend eternity if you end up drowning. "Karl E. Peterson" wrote: > A lot of the focus of the Copenhagen negotiations has been on the > expectations for what the climate will look like at the end of this > century. It's a convenient milestone, and it gives people something > that they can wrap their heads around, but it's a very arbitrary and > unscientific time point, as some of the impacts of current carbon > emissions may take centuries to fully register. This is especially true > when it comes to sea level; current estimates of a rise of about a > third of a meter by the end of the century seem manageable, but it's > not as if the oceans will stabilize on January 1, 2100. A paper > published in Nature on Wednesday now provides some sense of just how > badly off that estimate may be, by showing that a period with similar > temperatures saw ocean levels that were probably over six meters above > the ones we currently experience. > > http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2009/12/low-end-temp-predictions-may-bring-6-meter-ocean-level-rise.ars > > Wow... And that's from a change of 1-2°C... > > -- > ..NET: It's About Trust! > http://vfred.mvps.org > > > . > |