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From: Davoud on 29 Apr 2010 21:44
Latest MB Pro 17, Core i7, 8GB RAM. The Boot Camp/Win 7 Pro (retail
package) 64-bit install seemed to work properly. The Boot Camp Drivers
downloaded and installed properly. Win 7 activated normally. Ran it for
about an hour with no problems. Then it crashed. Now it will run only a
couple of minutes before crashing with a black screen and memory dump.

Start from scratch I know about. Any other ideas? Any reason 64-bit
should be a problem?

TIA!

Davoud

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From: Warren Oates on 30 Apr 2010 07:33
In article <290420102144035160%star(a)sky.net>, Davoud <star(a)sky.net>
wrote:

> Latest MB Pro 17, Core i7, 8GB RAM. The Boot Camp/Win 7 Pro (retail
> package) 64-bit install seemed to work properly. The Boot Camp Drivers
> downloaded and installed properly. Win 7 activated normally. Ran it for
> about an hour with no problems. Then it crashed. Now it will run only a
> couple of minutes before crashing with a black screen and memory dump.

Did you "activate" it? Microshaft have a very stupid and hysterical
anti-piracy mechanism.
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From: Davoud on 30 Apr 2010 10:14
Davoud:
> > Latest MB Pro 17, Core i7, 8GB RAM. The Boot Camp/Win 7 Pro (retail
> > package) 64-bit install seemed to work properly. The Boot Camp Drivers
> > downloaded and installed properly. Win 7 activated normally. Ran it for
> > about an hour with no problems. Then it crashed. Now it will run only a
> > couple of minutes before crashing with a black screen and memory dump.

Warren Oates:
> Did you "activate" it? Microshaft have a very stupid and hysterical
> anti-piracy mechanism.

I wrote "Win 7 activated normally." I fact, one has 30 days after
installation to activate Windows.

I used to think that Microsoft's anti-piracy mechanism was stupid and
hysterical, too, but I now think it is unfair to say that. Of course it
may _sometimes_ be inconvenient for the user, but just as we note that
Apple is a hardware company--the one whose designs are the most stolen
in the world--and is extremely aggressive (some would say hysterical)
in protecting itself against imitators, so should we acknowledge that
Microsoft is a software company--the one whose products are stolen more
than any other software.

Independent sources place the percentage of Windows installations
world-wide that are stolen (so-called pirated) at between 20 and 33%.
In certain countries it has, at times, approached 100%. I don't have at
hand the figures for MS Office and more specialized MS software, but
they are also very high. No sane company would fail to take measures to
limit such large-scale theft of its intellectual property, and any fair
minded person would have to concede that. It just happens to be much
more difficult to protect software than to protect hardware. A hacker
can't turn a Yugo into a BMW by swapping badges, but he can make tools
that enable a stolen Windows installation to work.

The initial activation of MS Windows is effortless. Connect to the
network and click the activate button. The process required about five
seconds. I can't call that draconian. Re-activation after a hardware
change _may_ be more complex, but I still wouldn't call it
draconian--remember that we're talking about a company whose software
is stolen more than that of any other company.

Here is my recent experience with re-activation. I have Win XP Pro on a
previous-generation MB Pro. The logic board failed while the MB Pro was
under AppleCare protection. The local Apple Store sent it off to a
depot to be repaired. When I got it back, XP Pro detected that it was
not the "same" computer as before, and required re-activation. It
failed to activate on line, and provided a toll-free number. The person
at the other end asked some sort of question about the hardware. I said
that it was the same machine with a new motherboard. She asked me for
the original Product Key, which I provided. She gave me a new
activation code. It didn't work. Don't worry, she said. She guided me
through a series of commands to reset something or other in the
software, then gave me a new code. which activated the software.

The above was not entirely convenient, but it took about as long to
write as it took to accomplish. The next day I loaded Windows through
Parallels Desktop 5 and sure enough, it needed to be re-activated. For
some reason, I felt certain that on-line activation would work this
time--and it did.

I'm not known as a huge defender of MS, but fair is fair. Finally, an
individual who can't abide the activation requirement can stop using
Windows and switch to the Mac OS, Linux, or another OS. If it so
happens that the software that person needs to do his or her job isn't
available except under Windows, then that person can quit their job and
find a new job. I refrained from saying "can simply quit their job..."
IMO, just clicking the "activate" button--or even making a phone call--
is a whole lot simpler.

Now, reinstalling Windows--which I'm going to have to do because the
first of the needed programs that I tried to install caused Windows to
tell me that the program was not 64-bit ready--is a different matter,
much more time consuming (though Win 7 is a much easier and faster
install than XP Pro). I'm certain that some of my other software is not
64-bit ready, either, so I'll install as 32-bit.

Davoud

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